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Java for business

Started byLee Shaoran <vishnumahendra@gmail.com>
First post2012-05-09 01:28 -0700
Last post2012-05-20 22:30 -0400
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  Java for business Lee Shaoran <vishnumahendra@gmail.com> - 2012-05-09 01:28 -0700
    Re: Java for business Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-09 01:43 -0700
    Re: Java for business Fredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org> - 2012-05-09 08:46 +0000
    Re: Java for business "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-09 06:20 -0400
    Re: Java for business Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-05-09 11:51 -0400
      Re: Java for business markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-09 09:16 -0700
        Re: Java for business Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-20 22:30 -0400

#14443 — Java for business

FromLee Shaoran <vishnumahendra@gmail.com>
Date2012-05-09 01:28 -0700
SubjectJava for business
Message-ID<8d89d0ab-fc88-4883-ac45-aa07c98db6fc@r2g2000pbs.googlegroups.com>
Hello to all,

Please refer Oracle's website link,

http://www.oracle.com/us/legal/terms/index.html

It states that the software available in this site should not be used
for commercial purposes.

Please tell me is there any way i can work use java on windows
environment free of cost for business.

Thank you,

Vishnu

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#14444

FromPaul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com>
Date2012-05-09 01:43 -0700
Message-ID<e85d5936-91ff-490e-9c70-d233869e678f@p21g2000vby.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#14443
On May 9, 9:28 am, Lee Shaoran <vishnumahen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello to all,
>
> Please refer Oracle's website link,
>
> http://www.oracle.com/us/legal/terms/index.html
>
> It states that the software available in this site should not be used
> for commercial purposes.

What it says is:

  ".... In the event that Software ... is not licensed for your use
through License Terms specific to the Software, you may use the
Software subject to the following: (a) .... noncommercial
purposes; ..."

Note the clause in the first sentence "is not licensed for your use
through License Terms specific to the Software".

There are specific license terms for Java which allow commercial use.
Type in "download Java" in a search engine.

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#14445

FromFredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org>
Date2012-05-09 08:46 +0000
Message-ID<slrnjqkbo3.f9d.fredrik@scout.jonson.org>
In reply to#14443
Lee Shaoran wrote:

>  http://www.oracle.com/us/legal/terms/index.html
>
>  [...] states that the software available in this site should not be
>  used for commercial purposes.
>
>  Please tell me is there any way i can work use java on windows
>  environment free of cost for business.

You're reading the wrong license. This is the license that regulate use of
Java SE, ie the JDK and JRE. It permits commercial use:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/license/index.html

If that license isn't good enough, you can use Openjdk, which is
licensed under the GPL v2 + a explicit linking exception.

http://openjdk.java.net/
http://openjdk.java.net/legal/gplv2+ce.html

--
Fredrik Jonson

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#14446

From"John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2012-05-09 06:20 -0400
Message-ID<nospam-B3E3D0.06204809052012@news.aioe.org>
In reply to#14443
In article 
<8d89d0ab-fc88-4883-ac45-aa07c98db6fc@r2g2000pbs.googlegroups.com>,
 Lee Shaoran <vishnumahendra@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please refer Oracle's website link,
> 
> http://www.oracle.com/us/legal/terms/index.html
> 
> It states that the software available in this site should not be used 
> for commercial purposes.
> 
> Please tell me is there any way i can work use Java on Windows 
> environment free of cost for business.

Section 2. Use of Software seems apropos. The "License Terms specific 
to" Java would apply. IANAL.

-- 
John B. Matthews
trashgod at gmail dot com
<http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>

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#14449

FromJeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid>
Date2012-05-09 11:51 -0400
Message-ID<joe3dv$oe2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14443
On 05/09/2012 04:28 AM, Lee Shaoran wrote:
> Hello to all,
>
> Please refer Oracle's website link,
>
> http://www.oracle.com/us/legal/terms/index.html
>
> It states that the software available in this site should not be used
> for commercial purposes.
>
> Please tell me is there any way i can work use java on windows
> environment free of cost for business.
>

Your legal adviser: cljp? wtf

> Thank you,
>
> Vishnu

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#14450

Frommarkspace <-@.>
Date2012-05-09 09:16 -0700
Message-ID<joe58g$2v7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14449
On 5/9/2012 8:51 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:

> On 05/09/2012 04:28 AM, Lee Shaoran wrote:
>>
>> Please tell me is there any way i can work use java on windows
>> environment free of cost for business.

> Your legal adviser: cljp? wtf


That's my reaction.  To the op:  If you really need legal advice, please 
contact a lawyer.  Getting legal advice from random people on the 
internet is a serious fail.

Also, learn to read plain English, as the license you link to is pretty 
darn clear about what it is saying.

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#14700

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2012-05-20 22:30 -0400
Message-ID<4fb9a8e3$0$290$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#14450
On 5/9/2012 12:16 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 5/9/2012 8:51 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 05/09/2012 04:28 AM, Lee Shaoran wrote:
>>>
>>> Please tell me is there any way i can work use java on windows
>>> environment free of cost for business.
>
>> Your legal adviser: cljp? wtf
>
> That's my reaction. To the op: If you really need legal advice, please
> contact a lawyer. Getting legal advice from random people on the
> internet is a serious fail.
>
> Also, learn to read plain English, as the license you link to is pretty
> darn clear about what it is saying.

I think the advice to contact a lawyer is a lot better
than to read the license as plain English. Legal matters
should follow common sense, but the reality is a bit
more complex.

Arne

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