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  [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-04 11:48 -0700
    Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-04 12:33 -0700
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-04 23:07 +0200
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-08-04 17:19 -0400
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-04 23:26 +0200
            Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-08-04 17:37 -0400
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! uBend <d0b@d1b.d1b.null> - 2012-08-04 20:48 -0500
            Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-05 08:51 -0700
              Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.invalid> - 2012-08-05 13:02 -0400
                Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! uBend <d0b@d1b.d1b.null> - 2012-08-05 22:53 -0400
                  Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.invalid> - 2012-08-05 23:24 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2012-08-06 04:10 +0000
            Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2012-08-06 04:06 +0000
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-04 14:32 -0700
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2012-08-04 23:50 +0200
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! markspace <-@.> - 2012-08-04 16:36 -0700
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-08-04 21:40 -0400
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-04 18:50 -0700
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-05 13:12 +0200
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-08-05 09:07 -0700
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-08-05 20:11 +0200

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#17171 — [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop!

Who's echoing all these posts marked with 

<quote>
-- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 
 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) 
--- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 
</quote>

STOP IT!

Please.

Is this an attack from an unemployed Ukrainian tuba player, perhaps?

-- 
Lew

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#17172

On 8/4/2012 11:48 AM, Lew wrote:
> Who's echoing all these posts marked with
>
> <quote>
> -- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
>   * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
> --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
> Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24
> </quote>
>
> STOP IT!
>
> Please.
>
> Is this an attack from an unemployed Ukrainian tuba player, perhaps?
>

The corrupted paths seem to point back to tds.net. I believe someone was 
going to try to contact their abuse address. Did that happen?

Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than comp.lang.java.programmer? 
It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.

Patricia

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#17198

On 04.08.2012 21:33, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 11:48 AM, Lew wrote:
>> Who's echoing all these posts marked with
>>
>> <quote>
>> -- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
>>   * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
>> --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
>> Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24
>> </quote>
>>
>> STOP IT!
>>
>> Please.
>>
>> Is this an attack from an unemployed Ukrainian tuba player, perhaps?
>>
>
> The corrupted paths seem to point back to tds.net. I believe someone was
> going to try to contact their abuse address. Did that happen?

Yes.  Sorry for not reporting back earlier.  I had hoped I could come up 
with better news.  Here's the state of affairs:

I sent email to news@tds.net as advertised in headers but the email came 
back:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

      news@tds.net

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the 
recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for 
further information about the cause of this error. The error that the 
other server returned was: 550 550-5.1.1 The email account that you 
tried to reach does not exist. Please try
550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at
550 5.1.1 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6596 
r2si8675364wia.47 (state 13).

I also tried the web contact form but that did not provide a proper 
category for this type of feedback (not even something faintly related, 
they just cover Internet connectivity issues and the like) so I didn't 
send anything via that way.

I then tried various addresses most of which had errors, these didn't:
postmaster@tds.net, webmaster@tds.net and postmaster@tdstelecom.com

No reply yet.


I also contacted my news provider (news.individual.net) which is a paid 
service and I have experienced them as very professional.  They replied 
within 2.5 hours (on a Sunday!) and argued that even if they would 
filter those messages that would not stop others from replying to the 
echo messages leading to even more corrupted threads.  They have a point 
there.  But they also hinted my at time.synchro.net which you can find 
in headers like these:

X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98]

So I tried to reach them at

root@time.synchro.net,
postmaster@time.synchro.net,
webmaster@time.synchro.net,
news@time.synchro.net,
newsmaster@time.synchro.net

No errors but also no response - yet.  I suspect nobody read the email.

Currently I have a filter on "X-Gateway: time.synchro.net" OR 
"NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65".  But that still does not make reading 
c.l.j.p a pleasant experience currently.

> Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than comp.lang.java.programmer?
> It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.

Not that I am aware of.

Kind regards

	robert

-- 
remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end
http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/

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#17199

On 8/4/2012 5:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On 04.08.2012 21:33, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>> Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than comp.lang.java.programmer?
>> It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.
>
> Not that I am aware of.

Me neither (but I am only following 6 global groups).

Which is somewhat interesting.

I can only think of two explanations:
1) software bug in server only carrying cljp
2) deliberate action by someone

Arne

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#17200

On 04.08.2012 23:19, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 5:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>> On 04.08.2012 21:33, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>> Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than comp.lang.java.programmer?
>>> It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.
>>
>> Not that I am aware of.
>
> Me neither (but I am only following 6 global groups).

Here it's 10 groups from comp.*, 16 in total.

> Which is somewhat interesting.
>
> I can only think of two explanations:
> 1) software bug in server only carrying cljp
> 2) deliberate action by someone

3) someone misconfiguring his private news server
4) experimental news gateway software running berserk and the 
development team went on summer holidays

Cheers

	robert

-- 
remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end
http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/

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#17202

On 8/4/2012 5:26 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On 04.08.2012 23:19, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/4/2012 5:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>>> On 04.08.2012 21:33, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>>> Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than
>>>> comp.lang.java.programmer?
>>>> It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.
>>>
>>> Not that I am aware of.
>>
>> Me neither (but I am only following 6 global groups).
>
> Here it's 10 groups from comp.*, 16 in total.
>
>> Which is somewhat interesting.
>>
>> I can only think of two explanations:
>> 1) software bug in server only carrying cljp
>> 2) deliberate action by someone
>
> 3) someone misconfiguring his private news server
> 4) experimental news gateway software running berserk and the
> development team went on summer holidays

Isn't that sub classes of #1?

Arne

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#17208

Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> posted as news in: 
 <501d91ea$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
>On 8/4/2012 5:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>> On 04.08.2012 21:33, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>>> Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than comp.lang.java.programmer?
>>> It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.
>>
>> Not that I am aware of.
>
>Me neither (but I am only following 6 global groups).
>
>Which is somewhat interesting.
>
>I can only think of two explanations:
>1) software bug in server only carrying cljp

This would be partly true as the server is open to exploit.

>2) deliberate action by someone
>
"someone"?
No prizes for the lottery winner on this one.
The fact the cross-poasted threads are not a 
subject of attack has escaped your notice?

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/msg/90b1ba4e63328fc4?dmode=source

Those "quotefix" posts are a feature of Hipcrime.
The java enabled version (NewsMaestro) has been in
Derbyshire's possession for quite some time.
Given all the aid cljp has provided in assisting 
with sorting out the bits of code which did prevent 
the script from running it is no surprise to see the
group targeted, as the group population declared 
Derbyshire persona non grata. 
More of a double whammy "thanks" posting series?

Derbyshire is frolicking among the kooks in
alt.usenet.kooks taking solid hits from the regulars
with assorted kook awards coming his way.
	From: kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.invalid>
	Message-ID: <jvki12$ia2$1@speranza.aioe.org>

	From: Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid>
	Message-ID: <jvi7pn$o36$11@dont-email.me>

	From: [Tor] Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler {One Of Three} <FNVW@AltUsenetKooks.com>
	Message-ID: <jvgo3l$qoa$1@news.mixmin.net>
All three of the above are apparitions of Derbyshire's invention.
All three have been focused on a failed "coup" of a/u/k.
How familiar to cljp lifers does that appear?
Most are now being forged in lampooning. The pegboi is 
not happy.
The action cljp is seeing is a standard reactive for
script enabled kooks hellbent on having their last word.

Join the dots to either wait it out till the open server dies
or filter on a set field, is all that could be done.
Those with balls could also contact the Sympatico Bell 
abuse desk asking if those posts are being pumped 
into a Tor network or socks4 host via their Bank St.
(Ottawa) server.

Given past examples it is not likely the shitstorm would 
ease soon.

---the only post on the topic, cljp you are on your own.

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#17213

On 8/4/2012 6:48 PM, uBend wrote:
...
> Those "quotefix" posts are a feature of Hipcrime.
> The java enabled version (NewsMaestro) has been in
> Derbyshire's possession for quite some time.
> Given all the aid cljp has provided in assisting
> with sorting out the bits of code which did prevent
> the script from running it is no surprise to see the
> group targeted, as the group population declared
> Derbyshire persona non grata.
> More of a double whammy "thanks" posting series?

I did consider the theory that the corrupted messages are a malicious
side effect of the current spam-fest, including the possibility they
they are being generated by one or more of the Derbyshire-obsessed spammers.

However, I think the best strategy is to try to make the TDS sysadmins
aware of the situation. If the messages are not coming from TDS they are
being repeatedly libeled. The TDS admins may have both an interest in
putting a stop to it, and better resources than I have for doing so.

Patricia

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#17215

On 05/08/2012 11:51 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 6:48 PM, uBend wrote:
> ...
>> Those "quotefix" posts are a feature of Hipcrime.
>> The java enabled version (NewsMaestro) has been in
>> Derbyshire's possession for quite some time.
>> Given all the aid cljp has provided in assisting
>> with sorting out the bits of code which did prevent
>> the script from running it is no surprise to see the
>> group targeted, as the group population declared
>> Derbyshire persona non grata.
>> More of a double whammy "thanks" posting series?
>
> I did consider the theory that the corrupted messages are a malicious
> side effect of the current spam-fest, including the possibility they
> they are being generated by one or more of the D3rbyshire-obsessed
> spammers.

You just replied to the biggest D3rbyshire-obsessed spammer of them all, 
without knowing it.

Note "uBend"'s oddball "<nym> posted as news in: <mid>" attrib line. 
That marks uBend as a sock of the posting entity I call Morphy. That 
name derives from the last truly long-lived nym of his having been 
"murphy", and morph, for what he's constantly doing (besides obsessing 
about D3rbyshire, whoever THAT is).

Morphy will troll newsgroups in rec.* and comp.* under various nyms 
accusing people of being D3rbyshire. He seems to think that since he's a 
sock-using nymshifting tard that every nym he sees is probably also a 
sock of a sock-using nymshifting tard -- classic projection.

He's also guilty of spamming -- actual, honest-to-God spamming. More 
specifically he's made several multiposts lately, some with BIs up into 
the teens, as "Hydra_Blanket" and variant nyms and as "CastAlone".

Since killfiling the twit won't work due to his morphing, I recommend 
simply ignoring him the old-fashioned way. If a nym's unfamiliar look 
for things like "posted as new in:", "oH Dear", one-word questions like 
this:

>> "someone?"

and other oddly formed questions, such as

>> The fact the cross-poasted threads are not a
>> subject of attack has escaped your notice?

And, of course, "D3rbyshire" and unsubstantiated claims that random 
people are sockpuppets of someone with that name.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

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#17238

kensi [known sock of Paul G Derbyshire of Pembroke Ontario]
 twisted0n3@gmail.com posted as news in <jvm8u7$6jv$1@speranza.aioe.org>:
>On 05/08/2012 11:51 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>> On 8/4/2012 6:48 PM, uBend wrote:
>> ...
>>> Those "quotefix" posts are a feature of Hipcrime.
>>> The java enabled version (NewsMaestro) has been in
>>> Derbyshire's possession for quite some time.
>>> Given all the aid cljp has provided in assisting
>>> with sorting out the bits of code which did prevent
>>> the script from running it is no surprise to see the
>>> group targeted, as the group population declared
>>> Derbyshire persona non grata.
>>> More of a double whammy "thanks" posting series?
>>
>> I did consider the theory that the corrupted messages are a malicious
>> side effect of the current spam-fest, including the possibility they
>> they are being generated by one or more of the D3rbyshire-obsessed
>> spammers.
>
Patricia.
Most definitely not. Take that as fact.
None, I repeat NONE of the people who have unwrapped Derbyshire
have resorted to the methods of SPAM the nutcase employs.

>You just replied to the biggest D3rbyshire-obsessed spammer of them all, 
>without knowing it.
>
Do know this piece of free information, Derbyshire.
AIOE.org has not set your "deny word" filter to cljp, it is okay to post
your name (Derbyshire) openly. Your attempted control of Usenet 
failed in that regard for this news group. Others were not so immune.

OTOH. Paolo Amoroso may still be listening to you at the abuse@desk.
There may be  a queue.

[0ff]

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#17239

On 05/08/2012 10:53 PM, uBend wrote:
> None, I repeat NONE of the people who have unwrapped Derbyshire
> have resorted to the methods of SPAM the nutcase employs.

Derbyshire must be you, then, since under your "Hydra-Blanky" nym you 
perpetrated the following excessive multipost:

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6v0n$i39$2@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,ott.jobs,rec.games.roguelike.angband)

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6v8b$ilg$4@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: rec.games.roguelike.development,alt.animals.dolphins

BI contribution: 1.4

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6usa$i39$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek,alt.config,alt.free.newsservers

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6vua$k0u$2@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.journalism,sci.space.shuttle

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6vgb$jde$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy

BI contribution: 1.0

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6vpj$k0u$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.help

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6v6h$ilg$2@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,ott.general,sci.astro

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6v5i$ilg$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,alt.tv.lost,alt.startrek

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky"
Message-ID: <jv6unv$hpn$1@speranza.aioe.org>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,sci.physics,alt.usenet.kooks

BI contribution: 1.7

From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi.remove-dpk-this
Message-ID: <50181D62.55742.calajapr@time.synchro.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer

BI contribution: 1.0

Total BI: 7*1.7 + 1.4 + 2*1 = 15.3

That's pretty spammy. And you *admitted* it, at the time:

+ --
+ aioe-EMP hash
+ name kuseijin	From 2012, I think. Some kind of cohort of `WJ'
+ perhaps, though it's unclear.
+ Ed Strolek	From early 2012. This may be the same person or machine + 
as Cthun: certainly
+ he/it shows some of the same repetitive aggression.

All but one of the multiposts has a slightly different, excessive-length 
"signature" like the above that has the sheer unrepentant gall to 
*explicitly state its purpose*, which is to avoid being filtered as 
duplicate posts. So don't pretend you didn't *know* you were committing 
Usenet EMP at the time, you twerp!

Anyone who doubts me, feel free to check each of those message-IDs out 
at http://al.howardknight.net to see that they're all by the same twit, 
all with substantially the same content, and all by *this uBend twit* to 
judge by the general tone, "style", and obsessive fixation in the posts' 
content. And then there's this, which you forgot to XNA:

<jstmd9$a3v$1@speranza.aioe.org>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/fddc236b19466b16

+ From: uBend <d0b@d1b.d1b.null>
+ STFU, paul (seamus) kOOk.

And this:

<jun4gk$rm8$1@speranza.aioe.org>

+ From: sn@ke.bite.shrinks.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanket"
+ paul (seamus)

Your distinctive obsession, your distinctive way of phrasing it, one in 
a uBend post with the same bogus email addy as this uBend post, the 
other in a post that is obviously by the same person as the EMP, with 
only slight tweaks to the (syntactically incorrect) From: header.

There is no doubt whatsoever in any reasonable mind, after reading the 
evidence above, that you yourself are responsible for usenet spamming, 
"uBend".

> AIOE.org has not set your "deny word" filter to cljp, it is okay to post
> your name (Derbyshire) openly.

Not my filter, nutcase.

> Your attempted control of Usenet<SLAP!>

Not my attempt. Like other attempts to throw sand on flamewars and 
trolling, probably estasi@aioe.org acting on his own initiative. You're 
just paranoid, blaming your demon "Derbyshire" for everything (and 
everyone) that annoys you.

> [0ff]

A classic Morpyism, that. And yet you keep denying that all your various 
other usenet socks were yours despite how easy it is to prove.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

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#17241

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:24:54 -0400, kensi wrote:

> On 05/08/2012 10:53 PM, uBend wrote:
>> None, I repeat NONE of the people who have unwrapped Derbyshire have
>> resorted to the methods of SPAM the nutcase employs.
> 
> Derbyshire must be you, then, since under your "Hydra-Blanky" nym you
> perpetrated the following excessive multipost:
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6v0n$i39$2@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> rec.arts.startrek.misc,ott.jobs,rec.games.roguelike.angband)
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6v8b$ilg$4@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> rec.games.roguelike.development,alt.animals.dolphins
> 
> BI contribution: 1.4
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6usa$i39$1@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> alt.games.xtrek,alt.config,alt.free.newsservers
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6vua$k0u$2@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> news.software.readers,alt.journalism,sci.space.shuttle
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6vgb$jde$1@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
> 
> BI contribution: 1.0
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6vpj$k0u$1@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.help
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6v6h$ilg$2@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> rec.arts.sf.tv,ott.general,sci.astro
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6v5i$ilg$1@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> sci.physics,alt.tv.lost,alt.startrek
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanky" Message-ID:
> <jv6unv$hpn$1@speranza.aioe.org> Newsgroups:
> rec.arts.tv,sci.physics,alt.usenet.kooks
> 
> BI contribution: 1.7
> 
> From: sn@ke.bite.splitz.derbyshire.fungi.remove-dpk-this Message-ID:
> <50181D62.55742.calajapr@time.synchro.net> NNTP-Posting-Host:
> 69.21.70.65
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
> 
> BI contribution: 1.0
> 
> Total BI: 7*1.7 + 1.4 + 2*1 = 15.3
> 
> That's pretty spammy.

SPNAK!

> And you *admitted* it, at the time:
> 
> + --
> + aioe-EMP hash
> + name kuseijin	From 2012, I think. Some kind of cohort of `WJ' +
> perhaps, though it's unclear.
> + Ed Strolek	From early 2012. This may be the same person or machine +
> as Cthun: certainly
> + he/it shows some of the same repetitive aggression.
> 
> All but one of the multiposts has a slightly different, excessive-length
> "signature" like the above that has the sheer unrepentant gall to
> *explicitly state its purpose*, which is to avoid being filtered as
> duplicate posts. So don't pretend you didn't *know* you were committing
> Usenet EMP at the time, you twerp!

SPNAK!!

> Anyone who doubts me, feel free to check each of those message-IDs out
> at http://al.howardknight.net to see that they're all by the same twit,
> all with substantially the same content, and all by *this uBend twit* to
> judge by the general tone, "style", and obsessive fixation in the posts'
> content. And then there's this, which you forgot to XNA:
> 
> <jstmd9$a3v$1@speranza.aioe.org>
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/fddc236b19466b16
> 
> + From: uBend <d0b@d1b.d1b.null>
> + STFU, paul (seamus) kOOk.
> 
> And this:
> 
> <jun4gk$rm8$1@speranza.aioe.org>
> 
> + From: sn@ke.bite.shrinks.derbyshire.fungi "Hydra-Blanket" + paul
> (seamus)
> 
> Your distinctive obsession, your distinctive way of phrasing it, one in
> a uBend post with the same bogus email addy as this uBend post, the
> other in a post that is obviously by the same person as the EMP, with
> only slight tweaks to the (syntactically incorrect) From: header.
> 
> There is no doubt whatsoever in any reasonable mind, after reading the
> evidence above, that you yourself are responsible for usenet spamming,
> "uBend".

SPNAK!!!

>> AIOE.org has not set your "deny word" filter to cljp, it is okay to
>> post your name (Derbyshire) openly.
> 
> Not my filter, nutcase.
> 
>> Your attempted control of Usenet<SLAP!>
> 
> Not my attempt. Like other attempts to throw sand on flamewars and
> trolling, probably estasi@aioe.org acting on his own initiative. You're
> just paranoid, blaming your demon "Derbyshire" for everything (and
> everyone) that annoys you.
> 
>> [0ff]
> 
> A classic Morpyism, that. And yet you keep denying that all your various
> other usenet socks were yours despite how easy it is to prove.

SPNAK!!!!

You go, girl!

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#17240

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 20:48:37 -0500, uBend wrote:

> This would be partly true as the server is open to exploit.
> 
>>2) deliberate action by someone
>>
> "someone"?
> No prizes for the lottery winner on this one. The fact the cross-poasted
> threads are not a subject of attack has escaped your notice?
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/
msg/90b1ba4e63328fc4?dmode=source
> 
> Those "quotefix" posts are a feature of Hipcrime. The java enabled
> version (NewsMaestro) has been in Derbyshire's p<NEEDLE SCRATCH>

It's you!

Hi, Morphy. :)

Now what was that you said earlier? Ah, yes:

> This would be partly true as the server is open to exploit.

Funny that you would know this. Generally the only people who would know 
such a thing are the server's administrator and anyone who's recently 
hacked the server in question.

> Given all the aid cljp has provided in assisting with sorting out
> the bits of code which did prevent the script from running it is no
> surprise to see the group targeted,

What specific type of delusional psychosis were you diagnosed with again? 
I forget.

> Derbyshire is frolicking among the kooks in alt.usenet.kooks taking
> solid hits from the regulars with assorted kook awards coming his way.

Derbyshire must be you, then, or maybe Fred Hall.

> 	From: kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.invalid> Message-ID:
> 	<jvki12$ia2$1@speranza.aioe.org>
> 
> 	From: Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> Message-ID:
> 	<jvi7pn$o36$11@dont-email.me>
> 
> 	From: [Tor] Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler {One Of Three}
> 	<FNVW@AltUsenetKooks.com> Message-ID: <jvgo3l$qoa
$1@news.mixmin.net>
> All three of the above are apparitions of Derbyshire's invention.

You mean, all three of the above are your worst nightmare. Evidence has 
repeatedly been posted that we three are three different people and that 
none of us is Derbyshire.

> All three have been focused on a failed "coup" of a/u/k.

You mean, a successful coup.

> Most are now being forged in

desperation.

> The pegboi is not happy.

No, Fred Hall, deemed Offishul AUK PegBoy For Life, is not happy at all.

> The action cljp is seeing is a standard reactive for script enabled
> kooks hellbent on having their last word.

That referring to your lame spamming attempts? You can't even manage to 
muster a BI of even 20. Or are you admitting you have something to do 
with this TDS nonsense?

> ---the only post on the topic,

A lie. I see a second "uBend" post in the header list. Apparently you 
didn't like whatever kensi had to say to Patricia Shanahan, a post I now 
eagerly anticipate reading next, as no doubt it contains another amusing 
smackdown of you, kook.

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#17201

On 8/4/2012 2:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On 04.08.2012 21:33, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
>> On 8/4/2012 11:48 AM, Lew wrote:
>>> Who's echoing all these posts marked with
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> -- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
>>>   * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
>>> --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
>>> Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> STOP IT!
>>>
>>> Please.
>>>
>>> Is this an attack from an unemployed Ukrainian tuba player, perhaps?
>>>
>>
>> The corrupted paths seem to point back to tds.net. I believe someone was
>> going to try to contact their abuse address. Did that happen?
>
> Yes.  Sorry for not reporting back earlier.  I had hoped I could come up
> with better news.  Here's the state of affairs:
>
> I sent email to news@tds.net as advertised in headers but the email came
> back:
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
>       news@tds.net
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
> recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for
> further information about the cause of this error. The error that the
> other server returned was: 550 550-5.1.1 The email account that you
> tried to reach does not exist. Please try
> 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
> 550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at
> 550 5.1.1 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6596
> r2si8675364wia.47 (state 13).
>
> I also tried the web contact form but that did not provide a proper
> category for this type of feedback (not even something faintly related,
> they just cover Internet connectivity issues and the like) so I didn't
> send anything via that way.
>
> I then tried various addresses most of which had errors, these didn't:
> postmaster@tds.net, webmaster@tds.net and postmaster@tdstelecom.com
>
> No reply yet.
>
>
> I also contacted my news provider (news.individual.net) which is a paid
> service and I have experienced them as very professional.  They replied
> within 2.5 hours (on a Sunday!) and argued that even if they would
> filter those messages that would not stop others from replying to the
> echo messages leading to even more corrupted threads.  They have a point
> there.  But they also hinted my at time.synchro.net which you can find
> in headers like these:
>
> X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98]
>
> So I tried to reach them at
>
> root@time.synchro.net,
> postmaster@time.synchro.net,
> webmaster@time.synchro.net,
> news@time.synchro.net,
> newsmaster@time.synchro.net
>
> No errors but also no response - yet.  I suspect nobody read the email.
>
> Currently I have a filter on "X-Gateway: time.synchro.net" OR
> "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65".  But that still does not make reading
> c.l.j.p a pleasant experience currently.
>
>> Does the bug affect any newsgroups other than comp.lang.java.programmer?
>> It's the only affected newsgroup I follow.
>
> Not that I am aware of.

Thanks for your efforts. The next question is whether anyone can think
of an alternative approach to getting this fixed. I'm afraid you have
already tried most of the things I can think of.

Patricia

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#17203

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:07:24 +0200, Robert Klemme wrote:

> Yes.  Sorry for not reporting back earlier.  I had hoped I could come up 
> with better news.  Here's the state of affairs: [...]

I tried a similar (though less thorough) approach a few days ago, with no
results either (other than the broken replies from tds).

One more thing that might help is the following: in the German part of
Usenet, we have a specific newsgroup to report abuse to, which to my
understanding can then lead to the offending news server being blocked
globally if they don't react. Is there maybe a similar mechanism for the
worldwide Usenet ?

Liebe Gruesse,
		Joerg

-- 
Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider
ungelesen.

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#17204

On 8/4/2012 2:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:

> So I tried to reach them at
>
> root@time.synchro.net,
> postmaster@time.synchro.net,
> webmaster@time.synchro.net,
> news@time.synchro.net,
> newsmaster@time.synchro.net


Sometimes abuse@host.tld is a way to get in touch with someone who can help.

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#17207

On 8/4/2012 5:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>[...]
> Yes.  Sorry for not reporting back earlier.  I had hoped I could come up
> with better news.  Here's the state of affairs: [...]

     Many thanks for trying; sorry your efforts have not yet borne
fruit.


-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid

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#17209

On 8/4/2012 2:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
...
> I also tried the web contact form but that did not provide a proper
> category for this type of feedback (not even something faintly related,
> they just cover Internet connectivity issues and the like) so I didn't
> send anything via that way.

I sent a message through their web form, disguising it as a sales
question so that I didn't have to provide existing account information.
This is an IQ test for their sales department - will they get my message
to someone who understands USENET?

Patricia

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#17210

On 08/05/2012 03:50 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 2:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> ...
>> I also tried the web contact form but that did not provide a proper
>> category for this type of feedback (not even something faintly related,
>> they just cover Internet connectivity issues and the like) so I didn't
>> send anything via that way.
>
> I sent a message through their web form, disguising it as a sales
> question so that I didn't have to provide existing account information.
> This is an IQ test for their sales department - will they get my message
> to someone who understands USENET?

LOL

Great Patricia, this is a good idea!  Let's hope for the best.

Kind regards

	robert

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#17214

On 8/4/12 2:07 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> So I tried to reach them at
>
> root@time.synchro.net,
> postmaster@time.synchro.net,
> webmaster@time.synchro.net,
> news@time.synchro.net,
> newsmaster@time.synchro.net
>
> No errors but also no response - yet.  I suspect nobody read the email.
>
> Currently I have a filter on "X-Gateway: time.synchro.net" OR
> "NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65".  But that still does not make reading
> c.l.j.p a pleasant experience currently.

Perhaps looking to the owners of synchro.net (not time.synchro.net), 
which appears to be a hosting service for BBSs.  My theory is that 
someone created a BBS<-->Usenet bridge, which is broken, and is running 
it on synchro.net's services.

I've been too busy to investigate it myself.

Good luck,
Daniel.

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