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  Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() clusardi2k@aol.com - 2012-07-16 12:53 -0700
    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-16 16:13 -0400
      Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-07-16 14:55 -0700
        Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-16 19:47 -0400
          Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() markspace <-@.> - 2012-07-16 18:05 -0700
          Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-16 19:46 -0700
            Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-17 07:38 -0400
              Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2012-07-17 13:45 +0100
                Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-07-17 19:46 +0200
                  Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-17 20:47 +0200
                    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-07-17 12:26 -0700
                      Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-17 14:16 -0700
                      Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2012-07-18 16:08 +0200
                        Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-07-18 21:33 +0000
                          Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-18 23:36 +0200
                            Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-07-18 21:53 +0000
                              Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-07-19 00:12 +0200
                                Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() markspace <-@.> - 2012-07-18 15:53 -0700
                                  Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-07-18 16:18 -0700
                                    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-18 18:06 -0700
                                Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-07-18 23:44 +0000
        Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-17 11:32 -0400
    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> - 2012-07-16 14:12 -0700
    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-07-16 14:12 -0700
    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-17 07:29 -0400
    Re: Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues() Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-07-17 09:30 -0700

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#16047 — Using getSelectedValuesList() instead of the deprecated getSelectedValues()

Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to replace jLst.getSelectedValues() below using jLst.getSelectedValuesList().

        Object str_array [];

        if ( !jLst.isSelectionEmpty() )
        {        
            str_array = jLst.getSelectedValues();

            System.out.println("Selected: " + str_array[0]);
        }

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#16049

On 07/16/2012 03:53 PM, clusardi2k@aol.com wrote:
> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to replace jLst.getSelectedValues() below using jLst.getSelectedValuesList().
>
>          Object str_array [];
>
>          if ( !jLst.isSelectionEmpty() )
>          {
>              str_array = jLst.getSelectedValues();
>
>              System.out.println("Selected: " + str_array[0]);
>          }
I think the java.util.List<E> interface has a method to return an array.

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#16054

On 7/16/12 1:13 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 07/16/2012 03:53 PM, clusardi2k@aol.com wrote:
>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to replace
>> jLst.getSelectedValues() below using jLst.getSelectedValuesList().
>>
>>          Object str_array [];
>>
>>          if ( !jLst.isSelectionEmpty() )
>>          {
>>              str_array = jLst.getSelectedValues();
>>
>>              System.out.println("Selected: " + str_array[0]);
>>          }
> I think the java.util.List<E> interface has a method to return an array.
>
Indeed it does, but that is terrible advice.

jList.getSelectedValuesList().get(0) is equivalent to 
jList.getSelectedValues()[0];

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#16056

On 07/16/2012 05:55 PM, Daniel Pitts wrote:
> On 7/16/12 1:13 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 07/16/2012 03:53 PM, clusardi2k@aol.com wrote:
>>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to replace
>>> jLst.getSelectedValues() below using jLst.getSelectedValuesList().
>>>
>>> Object str_array [];
>>>
>>> if ( !jLst.isSelectionEmpty() )
>>> {
>>> str_array = jLst.getSelectedValues();
>>>
>>> System.out.println("Selected: " + str_array[0]);
>>> }
>> I think the java.util.List<E> interface has a method to return an array.
>>
> Indeed it does, but that is terrible advice.

str_array = jLst.getSelectedValuesList().toArray();

Is that much better?

>
> jList.getSelectedValuesList().get(0) is equivalent to
> jList.getSelectedValues()[0];
>

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#16057

On 7/16/2012 4:47 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:

> On 07/16/2012 05:55 PM, Daniel Pitts wrote:

>> On 7/16/12 1:13 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> I think the java.util.List<E> interface has a method to return an array.
>>>
>> Indeed it does, but that is terrible advice.

> str_array = jLst.getSelectedValuesList().toArray();
>
> Is that much better?


I think Daniel is saying "prefer Lists to arrays", but then we don't 
know the OP's complete requirements.  If a List will do, then the List 
form is better.  If the OP must have an array, then I'd say one call 
that returns an array is better than doing the same thing with two calls.

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#16058

On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:47:53 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> Daniel Pitts wrote:
>> Higgins wrote:
>>> clusardi2k... wrote:
> >>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to replace
> >>> jLst.getSelectedValues() below using jLst.getSelectedValuesList().
> >>>
> >>> Object str_array [];
> >>>
> >>> if ( !jLst.isSelectionEmpty() )
> >>> {
> >>> str_array = jLst.getSelectedValues();
> >>>
> >>> System.out.println("Selected: " + str_array[0]);
> >>> }
> >> I think the java.util.List<E> interface has a method to return an array.
> >>
> > Indeed it does, but that is terrible advice.
> 
> str_array = jLst.getSelectedValuesList().toArray();
> 
> Is that much better?
> 
> >
> > jList.getSelectedValuesList().get(0) is equivalent to
> > jList.getSelectedValues()[0];
> >

What's better is

System.out.println("Selected: " + jLst.getSelectedValuesList().get(0));

with appropriate guards against NPE.

Unless, as markspace points out, the OP actually needs an array for 
reasons not in the original post.

-- 
Lew

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#16065

On 07/16/2012 10:46 PM, Lew wrote:
> On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:47:53 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> Daniel Pitts wrote:
>>> Higgins wrote:
>>>> clusardi2k... wrote:
>> >>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to replace
>> >>> jLst.getSelectedValues() below using jLst.getSelectedValuesList().
>> >>>
>> >>> Object str_array [];
>> >>>
>> >>> if ( !jLst.isSelectionEmpty() )
>> >>> {
>> >>> str_array = jLst.getSelectedValues();
>> >>>
>> >>> System.out.println("Selected:" + str_array[0]);
>> >>> }
>> >> I think the java.util.List<E> interface has a method to return an array.
>> >>

The XML escapes are distracting. I wish I knew how to get my newsreader 
how to restore them to characters.

>> > Indeed it does, but that is terrible advice.
>>
>> str_array = jLst.getSelectedValuesList().toArray();
>>
>> Is that much better?
>>
>> >
>> > jList.getSelectedValuesList().get(0) is equivalent to
>> > jList.getSelectedValues()[0];
>> >
>
> What's better is
>
> System.out.println("Selected: " + jLst.getSelectedValuesList().get(0));
>
> with appropriate guards against NPE.
>
> Unless, as markspace points out, the OP actually needs an array for
> reasons not in the original post.
>

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#16066

On 17/07/12 12:38, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 07/16/2012 10:46 PM, Lew wrote:
>> On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:47:53 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> >>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to 
>>> replace
> The XML escapes are distracting. I wish I knew how to get my 
> newsreader how to restore them to characters.

There's no reason it should; it's not declared as XML or similar.

I've been watching this problem for a while, and I'm fairly sure it's 
Lew's news client that is at fault for escaping something that did not 
merit escaping.  Or perhaps it escaped the characters to enable editing 
as HTML, then failed to unescape them when converting back to plain 
text.  I wouldn't be surprised if the client is also mistakenly 
unescaping the text when rendering it back, so Lew doesn't see it.

Here's a selection of Lew's posts, from around when it started:

Date
	Organization
	Problems
Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:56:02 -0700 (PDT)
	http://groups.google.com
	None
Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
	http://groups.google.com
	'
Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT)
	http://groups.google.com
	> '
Mon, 09 Jul 2012 23:41:26 -0700
	albasani.net
	None
Mon, 09 Jul 2012 23:47:36 -0700
	albasani.net
	None
Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:26:33 -0700 (PDT)
	http://groups.google.com
	None, but no challenge
Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT)
	http://groups.google.com
	>
Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:03:11 -0700 (PDT)
	http://groups.google.com
	"
Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:01:44 -0700
	albasani.net
	None


I didn't spot any errors in a quick scan of posts from before the second 
row.

-- 
ss at comp dot lancs dot ac dot uk

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#16069

2012-07-17 14:45, Steven Simpson skrev:
> On 17/07/12 12:38, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 07/16/2012 10:46 PM, Lew wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:47:53 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> >>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to
>>>> replace
>> The XML escapes are distracting. I wish I knew how to get my
>> newsreader how to restore them to characters.
> 
> There's no reason it should; it's not declared as XML or similar.
> 
> I've been watching this problem for a while, and I'm fairly sure it's
> Lew's news client that is at fault for escaping something that did not
> merit escaping.  Or perhaps it escaped the characters to enable editing
> as HTML, then failed to unescape them when converting back to plain
> text.  I wouldn't be surprised if the client is also mistakenly
> unescaping the text when rendering it back, so Lew doesn't see it.

It's not XML, it's HTML, and the guilty party is Google (Groups). It
seems to get even worse than it used to be.

-- 
Lars Enderin

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#16070

On 17/07/2012 19:46, Lars Enderin allegedly wrote:
> 2012-07-17 14:45, Steven Simpson skrev:
>> On 17/07/12 12:38, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 07/16/2012 10:46 PM, Lew wrote:
>>>> On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:47:53 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>> >>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to
>>>>> replace
>>> The XML escapes are distracting. I wish I knew how to get my
>>> newsreader how to restore them to characters.
>>
>> There's no reason it should; it's not declared as XML or similar.
>>
>> I've been watching this problem for a while, and I'm fairly sure it's
>> Lew's news client that is at fault for escaping something that did not
>> merit escaping.  Or perhaps it escaped the characters to enable editing
>> as HTML, then failed to unescape them when converting back to plain
>> text.  I wouldn't be surprised if the client is also mistakenly
>> unescaping the text when rendering it back, so Lew doesn't see it.
> 
> It's not XML, it's HTML, and the guilty party is Google (Groups). It
> seems to get even worse than it used to be.
> 

Amen to that.

-- 
DF.

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#16071

On 7/17/12 11:47 AM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
> On 17/07/2012 19:46, Lars Enderin allegedly wrote:
>> 2012-07-17 14:45, Steven Simpson skrev:
>>> On 17/07/12 12:38, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 07/16/2012 10:46 PM, Lew wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:47:53 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Hello, can anyone give me a simple/complete example to
>>>>>> replace
>>>> The XML escapes are distracting. I wish I knew how to get my
>>>> newsreader how to restore them to characters.
>>>
>>> There's no reason it should; it's not declared as XML or similar.
>>>
>>> I've been watching this problem for a while, and I'm fairly sure it's
>>> Lew's news client that is at fault for escaping something that did not
>>> merit escaping.  Or perhaps it escaped the characters to enable editing
>>> as HTML, then failed to unescape them when converting back to plain
>>> text.  I wouldn't be surprised if the client is also mistakenly
>>> unescaping the text when rendering it back, so Lew doesn't see it.
>>
>> It's not XML, it's HTML, and the guilty party is Google (Groups). It
>> seems to get even worse than it used to be.
>>
>
> Amen to that.
>
It's gotten *worse* than intolerable? Didn't know that was possible. 
It's why I switched to a "real" news client.

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#16074

Daniel Pitts wrote:
> It's gotten *worse* than intolerable? Didn't know that was possible. 
> It's why I switched to a "real" news client.

I use GG when it's convenient, but this "unescape" difficulty makes that 
less frequent than it used to be.

Yes, one sees the escape sequences in the editor box for a reply. It's 
a lot of work to clear them, so I mostly don't.

When I use Thunderbird as the news client life is much happier.

-- 
Lew

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#16080

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:26:46 -0700, Daniel Pitts wrote:

> On 7/17/12 11:47 AM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>> On 17/07/2012 19:46, Lars Enderin allegedly wrote:
>>> It's not XML, it's HTML, and the guilty party is Google (Groups). It
>>> seems to get even worse than it used to be.
>> Amen to that.
> It's gotten *worse* than intolerable? Didn't know that was possible. 
> It's why I switched to a "real" news client.

Google Groups has apparently been given an ... 'underhaul' ? recently. It
stopped respecting Follow-Up's as well, and in fact doesn't even inform the
user (let alone giving them a choice).

Liebe Gruesse,
		Joerg

-- 
Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider
ungelesen.

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#16087

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:08:14 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote:

> 
> Google Groups has apparently been given an ... 'underhaul' ? recently.
> It stopped respecting Follow-Up's as well, and in fact doesn't even
> inform the user (let alone giving them a choice).
>
What do you expect? 

As long as Google persists in describing almost everything it provides as 
a beta release and never seems willing to promote it to a production 
release, I'd say you should expect BAAFNRAA behavior from their code.

BAAFNRAA = Bugs Anywhere, Anytime For No Reason At All.


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#16089

On 18/07/2012 23:33, Martin Gregorie allegedly wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:08:14 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote:
> 
>>
>> Google Groups has apparently been given an ... 'underhaul' ? recently.
>> It stopped respecting Follow-Up's as well, and in fact doesn't even
>> inform the user (let alone giving them a choice).
>>
> What do you expect? 
> 
> As long as Google persists in describing almost everything it provides as 
> a beta release and never seems willing to promote it to a production 
> release, I'd say you should expect BAAFNRAA behavior from their code.
> 
> BAAFNRAA = Bugs Anywhere, Anytime For No Reason At All.

Rubbish. There's always a reason for bugs.

/readies excuse calendar/ Try me.

-- 
DF.

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#16091

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:36:28 +0200, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:

> On 18/07/2012 23:33, Martin Gregorie allegedly wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:08:14 +0200, Joerg Meier wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Google Groups has apparently been given an ... 'underhaul' ? recently.
>>> It stopped respecting Follow-Up's as well, and in fact doesn't even
>>> inform the user (let alone giving them a choice).
>>>
>> What do you expect?
>> 
>> As long as Google persists in describing almost everything it provides
>> as a beta release and never seems willing to promote it to a production
>> release, I'd say you should expect BAAFNRAA behavior from their code.
>> 
>> BAAFNRAA = Bugs Anywhere, Anytime For No Reason At All.
> 
> Rubbish. There's always a reason for bugs.
> 
> /readies excuse calendar/ Try me.

Even if the 'reason' is "We don't believe in regression testing"?


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#16093

On 18/07/2012 23:53, Martin Gregorie allegedly wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:36:28 +0200, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>> On 18/07/2012 23:33, Martin Gregorie allegedly wrote:
>>> BAAFNRAA = Bugs Anywhere, Anytime For No Reason At All.
>>
>> Rubbish. There's always a reason for bugs.
>>
>> /readies excuse calendar/ Try me.
> 
> Even if the 'reason' is "We don't believe in regression testing"?

Hmm. I was thinking more along the lines of solar flares, alignment of
planets, the bus having a flat tire or the NIC having run out of bits.

I think one should generally avoid faith-based bug-reasoning. Too easy
to attack; not peremptory enough. Amateurish, in a nutshell. /waves
disdainfully/

-- 
DF.

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#16094

On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>
> ...  or the NIC having run out of bits.


I once lost my token ring, but I found it later caught in the ethernet.

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#16098

On 7/18/12 3:53 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>>
>> ...  or the NIC having run out of bits.
>
>
> I once lost my token ring, but I found it later caught in the ethernet.
I once lost my Tolkien ring, but I found it later on some nasty hobbitses.

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#16101

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:18:38 -0700, Daniel Pitts
<newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> wrote:

>On 7/18/12 3:53 PM, markspace wrote:
>> On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
>>>
>>> ...  or the NIC having run out of bits.

>> I once lost my token ring, but I found it later caught in the ethernet.
>I once lost my Tolkien ring, but I found it later on some nasty hobbitses.

     The reinstall failed though.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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