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Fourier transform

Started bybob <bob@coolfone.comze.com>
First post2012-03-21 07:07 -0700
Last post2012-03-25 18:17 -0400
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  Fourier transform bob <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2012-03-21 07:07 -0700
    Re: Fourier transform Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-03-21 07:46 -0700
    Re: Fourier transform glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-21 18:08 +0000
      Re: Fourier transform v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2012-03-21 22:59 +0000
        Re: Fourier transform glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-22 03:46 +0000
    Re: Fourier transform Frank Langelage <frank@lafr.de> - 2012-03-21 20:35 +0100
    Re: Fourier transform Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-03-21 18:14 -0700
    Re: Fourier transform Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-03-22 11:28 -0700
      Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 12:34 +0100
        Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 21:40 +0100
        Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 21:52 +0100
          Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 22:17 +0100
            Re: Fourier transform Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-24 18:52 -0400
              Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-25 00:34 +0100
          Re: Fourier transform Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-03-24 14:55 -0700
            Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 23:24 +0100
              Re: Fourier transform Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-03-24 23:39 +0100
                Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 23:44 +0100
                  Re: Fourier transform Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-03-24 23:53 +0100
                    Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-25 00:27 +0100
                Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-24 23:46 +0100
          Re: Fourier transform Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-03-24 19:44 -0700
            Re: Fourier transform Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-03-25 14:30 -0700
              Re: Fourier transform Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-03-25 20:42 -0700
                Re: Fourier transform "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-03-26 09:48 -0400
                  Re: Fourier transform Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-26 16:06 +0200
            Re: Fourier transform Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-25 18:17 -0400

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#13151

FromJan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2012-03-24 23:46 +0100
Message-ID<jklis6$1g0$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#13149
Lars Enderin schrieb:
> Doesn't matter. Correct ortography is easier to read

I don't dispute this. But if S.R. cannot put
down his teacher attitude maybe a better play-
ground would be alt.usage.english or so.

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#13156

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-03-24 19:44 -0700
Message-ID<da1tm7tk4b9kpdefe7t5vecs5qq4mde95g@4ax.com>
In reply to#13144
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:52:55 +0100, Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>Further all lower caps saves
>typing energy, so do short words
>from foreign languages.

Its more that people unconsciously substitute words from their native
language when grasping for an unfamiliar similar one in  the second
language.

The world is becoming a village. We are going to have to expand our
vocabularies to include some vocabulary from all the people we talk
to. Think of it as local slang, like "pear shaped" in England that you
won't necessarily know off the bat.

When I was a kid, I was always impressed by people who could speak
foreign languages in films.  I don't mind it at all when someone prods
me to expand my vocabulary.

-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
When you were a child, if you did your own experiment
to see if it was better to put to cocoa into your cup first
or the hot milk first, then you likely have the programmer gene..

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#13177

FromLew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Date2012-03-25 14:30 -0700
Message-ID<jko2pe$mc3$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#13156
On 03/24/2012 07:44 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:52:55 +0100, Jan Burse<janburse@fastmail.fm>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>> Further all lower caps saves
>> typing energy, so do short words
>>from foreign languages.
>
> Its more that people unconsciously substitute words from their native
> language when grasping for an unfamiliar similar one in  the second
> language.
>
> The world is becoming a village. We are going to have to expand our
> vocabularies to include some vocabulary from all the people we talk
> to. Think of it as local slang, like "pear shaped" in England that you
> won't necessarily know off the bat.

Or "off the bat".

I believe this term originates with cricket, but is explicable to Americans by 
dint of baseball.

> When I was a kid, I was always impressed by people who could speak
> foreign languages in films.  I don't mind it at all when someone prods
> me to expand my vocabulary.

Bill Shatner did an entire movie in Esperanto.

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg

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#13181

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net>
Date2012-03-25 20:42 -0700
Message-ID<japvm7dqtqohdp0qcv93qtgqd6kg467vhs@4ax.com>
In reply to#13177
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:30:23 -0700, Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> wrote:

>On 03/24/2012 07:44 PM, Roedy Green wrote:

[snip]

>> When I was a kid, I was always impressed by people who could speak
>> foreign languages in films.  I don't mind it at all when someone prods
>> me to expand my vocabulary.

     I do not mind it when it adds to the conversation.  If it is just
to be erudite, no.

>Bill Shatner did an entire movie in Esperanto.

     I understand that the Swedish band Abba learned their English
song words, syllable by syllable.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#13184

From"John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2012-03-26 09:48 -0400
Message-ID<nospam-32E613.09481526032012@news.aioe.org>
In reply to#13181
In article <japvm7dqtqohdp0qcv93qtgqd6kg467vhs@4ax.com>,
 Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:30:23 -0700, Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> wrote:
> 
> >On 03/24/2012 07:44 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> When I was a kid, I was always impressed by people who could speak 
> >> foreign languages in films.  I don't mind it at all when someone 
> >> prods me to expand my vocabulary.
> 
>      I do not mind it when it adds to the conversation.  If it is 
> just to be erudite, no.

I still don't mind.
 
> >Bill Shatner did an entire movie in Esperanto.
> 
>      I understand that the Swedish band Abba learned their English
> song words, syllable by syllable.

Isn't that how everyone learns to sing non-native language songs?

-- 
John B. Matthews
trashgod at gmail dot com
<http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>

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#13185

FromJan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2012-03-26 16:06 +0200
Message-ID<jkpt50$3ud$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#13184
John B. Matthews schrieb:
>>   I understand that the Swedish band Abba learned their English
>>   song words, syllable by syllable.
> Isn't that how everyone learns to sing non-native language songs?

If they are not occupied with herding their cattle? Right?

Wrong:

- English is teached in primary school.
- Additionally a languages such as german, spanish, etc.. is learnt.

Please also note:
"There is currently an ongoing debate among linguists whether English 
should be considered a foreign or second language in Sweden (and the 
other Scandinavian countries)[6] due to its widespread use in society."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Sweden#Foreign_languages

Members of Abba were living in germany for some time. So I
guess they mastered at least 3 languages.

(P.S.: I don't have any affiliation with Sweden)

Bye

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#13179

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2012-03-25 18:17 -0400
Message-ID<4f6f9976$0$286$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#13156
On 3/24/2012 10:44 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> Its more that people unconsciously substitute words from their native
> language when grasping for an unfamiliar similar one in  the second
> language.

That happens.

> The world is becoming a village. We are going to have to expand our
> vocabularies to include some vocabulary from all the people we talk
> to. Think of it as local slang, like "pear shaped" in England that you
> won't necessarily know off the bat.
>
> When I was a kid, I was always impressed by people who could speak
> foreign languages in films.  I don't mind it at all when someone prods
> me to expand my vocabulary.

There is a big difference between speaking multiple languages one
at a time and speaking a mix of multiple languages in a single
conversation.

Arne

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