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  [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 markspace <-@.> - 2011-10-13 14:20 -0700
    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-10-13 17:12 -0700
    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-10-14 00:40 +0000
      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-14 16:59 -0400
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 markspace <-@.> - 2011-10-14 14:13 -0700
          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-14 17:22 -0400
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-14 15:44 -0700
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-15 01:11 -0400
                Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-15 08:54 -0700
                  Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-15 15:37 -0400
                  Re: Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2011-10-17 03:00 -0700
                Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:43 -0400
                  Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-16 01:30 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 "Charles Hottel" <chottel@earthlink.net> - 2011-10-16 11:19 -0400
                      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-16 18:28 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-16 22:24 -0400
                      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-17 21:34 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-06 18:14 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-11-07 12:23 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-16 23:21 +0100
                    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-16 22:27 -0400
    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2011-10-14 13:19 +0100
      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-14 14:26 +0100
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2011-10-14 16:53 +0300
          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-14 18:09 -0400
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-15 09:28 +0000
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:43 -0400
                Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-16 04:51 +0000
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2011-10-15 18:38 +0300
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:51 -0400
      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-15 09:27 +0000
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-15 14:43 +0100
          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-15 18:12 +0000
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:39 -0400
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2011-10-20 12:39 -0400
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-10-20 10:04 -0700
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-20 20:36 +0100
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-21 20:42 +0200
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-10-21 18:54 -0700
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:37 -0400

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#8770 — [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70

Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the 
Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of 
computing, has died. He was 70.

Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim, 
president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.

<http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>

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#8772

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote, quoted or
indirectly quoted someone who said :

>Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the 
>Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of 
>computing, has died. He was 70.

UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a
genius to understand the simplicity. 
~ Dennis Ritchie 1941-09-09 2011-10-08 
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
It should not be considered an error when the user starts something
already started or stops something already stopped. This applies
to browsers, services, editors... It is inexcusable to 
punish the user by requiring some elaborate sequence to atone,
e.g. open the task editor, find and kill some processes.

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#8773

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace wrote:

> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of
> computing, has died. He was 70.
> 
> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
> 
> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-
pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>

I think these obits say a little more......

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/13/dennis_ritchie/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/13/dennis_ritchie_obituary/


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#8802

On 13/10/2011 8:40 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace wrote:
>
>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of
>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>
>> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>
>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-
> pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>
> I think these obits say a little more......
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/13/dennis_ritchie/
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/13/dennis_ritchie_obituary/

None of these links say what actually got him. Was it just old age? 70's 
a *touch* young for that, though.

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#8804

On 10/14/2011 1:59 PM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> None of these links say what actually got him. Was it just old age? 70's
> a *touch* young for that, though.
>


I uh, happen to be connected to this world wide information network, 
which allows me to look up information about things.  You should look 
into getting one yourself.

<http://www.google.com/search?q=dennis+ritchie+cause+of+death>

"Dennis Ritchie, 70, a computer scientist who changed modern technology 
by writing an elegantly simple computer programming language, was found 
dead at his home in Murray Hill, N.J., his former colleague Rob Pike said.

"Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered 
last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."


So there you go.  Unknown, not immediately available. He was found dead 
in his home.

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#8805

On 14/10/2011 5:13 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 10/14/2011 1:59 PM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>> None of these links say what actually got him. Was it just old age? 70's
>> a *touch* young for that, though.
>
> I uh, happen to be connected to this world wide information network,
> which allows me to look up information about things. You should look
> into getting one yourself.
>
> <http://www.google.com/search?q=dennis+ritchie+cause+of+death>

You don't think I tried that sort of thing? But I got no answer.

> "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered
> last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."

And apparently neither did you.

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#8809

On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:22:27 PM UTC-7, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> On 14/10/2011 5:13 PM, markspace wrote:
> > On 10/14/2011 1:59 PM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> >> None of these links say what actually got him. Was it just old age? 70's
> >> a *touch* young for that, though.
> >
> > I uh, happen to be connected to this world wide information network,
> > which allows me to look up information about things. You should look
> > into getting one yourself.
> >
> > <http://www.google.com/search?q=dennis+ritchie+cause+of+death>
> 
> You don't think I tried that sort of thing? But I got no answer.

No, we don't.

> > "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered
> > last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."
> 
> And apparently neither did you.

But he did.  He got that the cause of death is not available.  That *is* an answer!

-- 
Lew

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#8810

On 14/10/2011 6:44 PM, Lew wrote:
> On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:22:27 PM UTC-7, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>> On 14/10/2011 5:13 PM, markspace wrote:
>>> <http://www.google.com/search?q=dennis+ritchie+cause+of+death>
>>
>> You don't think I tried that sort of thing? But I got no answer.
>
> No, we don't.

Then you're wrong.

>>> "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered
>>> last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."
>>
>> And apparently neither did you.
>
> But he did.

No he didn't.

> He got that the cause of death is not available.  That *is* an answer!

No it isn't.

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#8821

B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>> markspace wrote:
>>>> <http://www.google.com/search?q=dennis+ritchie+cause+of+death>
>>>
>>> You don't think I tried that sort of thing? But I got no answer.
>>
>> No, we don't.
> 
> Then you're wrong.
> 
>>>> "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered
>>>> last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."
>>>
>>> And apparently neither did you.
>>
>> But he did.
> 
> No he didn't.
> 
>> He got that the cause of death is not available.  That *is* an answer!
> 
> No it isn't.

'Palin becomes frustrated with this, insisting that he paid for an argument, and "an argument is an intellectual process, while contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says."'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Argument_Sketch>

-- 
Lew
It's being=hit-on-the-head lessons in here.

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#8825

On 15/10/2011 11:54 AM, Lew wrote:
> 'Palin becomes frustrated with this, insisting that he paid for an
> argument, and "an argument is an intellectual process, while
> contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other
> person says."'

Cute.

The fact remains that I still don't know his cause of death, and all the 
claiming that "I got an answer" won't change the fact that in reality I 
still don't know.

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#8903 — Re: Dennis Ritchie dies at 70

On Oct 15, 4:54 pm, Lew <lewbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 'Palin becomes frustrated with this, insisting that he paid for an argument, and "an argument is an intellectual process, while contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says."'

"No it isn't."

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#8848

On 10/15/2011 1:11 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> On 14/10/2011 6:44 PM, Lew wrote:
>> On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:22:27 PM UTC-7, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>> On 14/10/2011 5:13 PM, markspace wrote:
>>>> "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered
>>>> last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."
>>>
>>> And apparently neither did you.
>>
>> But he did.
>
> No he didn't.
>
>> He got that the cause of death is not available. That *is* an answer!
>
> No it isn't.

It explains what is known about the question and why it is so.

That is the best possible reply.

When something is a best possible reply I would call it
an answer.

Arne

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#8857

On 15/10/2011 9:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> That is the best possible reply.

But it's *not* the best possible reply, unless you believe the man's 
C.O.D. is known to no-one and never will be known.

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#8866

"B1ll Gat3s" <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> wrote in message 
news:j7dq6f$8tv$2@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 15/10/2011 9:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> That is the best possible reply.
>
> But it's *not* the best possible reply, unless you believe the man's 
> C.O.D. is known to no-one and never will be known.
>
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This is not a definitive answer but at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie under "Death and legacy" is says 
he was being treated for prostate cancer and heart disease. 

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#8874

On 16/10/2011 11:19 AM, Charles Hottel wrote:
> This is not a definitive answer but at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie under "Death and legacy" is says
> he was being treated for prostate cancer and heart disease.

Ah, much better.

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#8893

On 10/16/2011 1:30 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> On 15/10/2011 9:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> That is the best possible reply.
>
> But it's *not* the best possible reply, unless you believe the man's
> C.O.D. is known to no-one and never will be known.

If the cause of death has not been made public yet, then
even those that know could not post a a better answer.

The best answer today may not be the best answer tomorrow. But
that does not make it possible to provide a better answer today.

Arne

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#8935

On 16/10/2011 10:24 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 10/16/2011 1:30 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>> On 15/10/2011 9:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> That is the best possible reply.
>>
>> But it's *not* the best possible reply, unless you believe the man's
>> C.O.D. is known to no-one and never will be known.
>
> If the cause of death has not been made public yet, then
> even those that know could not post a a better answer.

Of course they could. How do you think they'd make it public?

> The best answer today may not be the best answer tomorrow. But
> that does not make it possible to provide a better answer today.

Did I claim it was, on any particular day?

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#9698

On 10/17/2011 9:34 PM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
> On 16/10/2011 10:24 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 10/16/2011 1:30 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2011 9:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> That is the best possible reply.
>>>
>>> But it's *not* the best possible reply, unless you believe the man's
>>> C.O.D. is known to no-one and never will be known.
>>
>> If the cause of death has not been made public yet, then
>> even those that know could not post a a better answer.
>
> Of course they could. How do you think they'd make it public?

If and when they get authorization to make it public then they
can tell.

>> The best answer today may not be the best answer tomorrow. But
>> that does not make it possible to provide a better answer today.
>
> Did I claim it was, on any particular day?

No.

But you can obviously only get todays answer today.

Arne

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#9747

On 06/11/2011 6:14 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 10/17/2011 9:34 PM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>> On 16/10/2011 10:24 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 10/16/2011 1:30 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/2011 9:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> That is the best possible reply.
>>>>
>>>> But it's *not* the best possible reply, unless you believe the man's
>>>> C.O.D. is known to no-one and never will be known.
>>>
>>> If the cause of death has not been made public yet, then
>>> even those that know could not post a a better answer.
>>
>> Of course they could. How do you think they'd make it public?
>
> If and when they get authorization to make it public then they
> can tell.

They *can* tell anything they know. Perhaps they *may* not, according to 
some rule or regulation, but they *can*.

>>> The best answer today may not be the best answer tomorrow. But
>>> that does not make it possible to provide a better answer today.
>>
>> Did I claim it was, on any particular day?
>
> No.
>
> But you can obviously only get todays answer today.

But I didn't demand an answer by any particular time.


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#8873

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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Arne Vajhøj wrote:

> On 10/15/2011 1:11 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>> On 14/10/2011 6:44 PM, Lew wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:22:27 PM UTC-7, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>>> On 14/10/2011 5:13 PM, markspace wrote:
>>>>> "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been discovered
>>>>> last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."
>>>> 
>>>> And apparently neither did you.
>>> 
>>> But he did.
>> 
>> No he didn't.
>> 
>>> He got that the cause of death is not available. That *is* an answer!
>> 
>> No it isn't.
>
> It explains what is known about the question and why it is so.
>
> That is the best possible reply.
>
> When something is a best possible reply I would call it an answer.

I wouldn't. At least, if you mean "best possible reply that someone could 
make here and now", rather than "best possible reply that we can imagine 
someone making".

It seems rather nihilistic to adopt the former definition. "How did the 
universe begin?", "We don't know.", and there's an answer!

tom

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