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[OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70

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  [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 markspace <-@.> - 2011-10-13 14:20 -0700
    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-10-13 17:12 -0700
    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-10-14 00:40 +0000
      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-14 16:59 -0400
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 markspace <-@.> - 2011-10-14 14:13 -0700
          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-14 17:22 -0400
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-14 15:44 -0700
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-15 01:11 -0400
                Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-15 08:54 -0700
                  Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-15 15:37 -0400
                  Re: Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2011-10-17 03:00 -0700
                Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:43 -0400
                  Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-16 01:30 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 "Charles Hottel" <chottel@earthlink.net> - 2011-10-16 11:19 -0400
                      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-16 18:28 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-16 22:24 -0400
                      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-10-17 21:34 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-06 18:14 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m> - 2011-11-07 12:23 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-16 23:21 +0100
                    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-16 22:27 -0400
    Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2011-10-14 13:19 +0100
      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-14 14:26 +0100
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2011-10-14 16:53 +0300
          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-14 18:09 -0400
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-15 09:28 +0000
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:43 -0400
                Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-16 04:51 +0000
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2011-10-15 18:38 +0300
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:51 -0400
      Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-15 09:27 +0000
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-15 14:43 +0100
          Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2011-10-15 18:12 +0000
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:39 -0400
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2011-10-20 12:39 -0400
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-10-20 10:04 -0700
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-20 20:36 +0100
            Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-21 20:42 +0200
              Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-10-21 18:54 -0700
        Re: [OT] Dennis Ritchie dies at 70 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-15 21:37 -0400

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#8894

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2011-10-16 22:27 -0400
Message-ID<4e9b92a6$0$288$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#8873
On 10/16/2011 6:21 PM, Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 10/15/2011 1:11 AM, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>> On 14/10/2011 6:44 PM, Lew wrote:
>>>> On Friday, October 14, 2011 2:22:27 PM UTC-7, B1ll Gat3s wrote:
>>>>> On 14/10/2011 5:13 PM, markspace wrote:
>>>>>> "Pike received word Oct. 12 that Dr. Ritchie’s body had been
>>>>>> discovered
>>>>>> last weekend. A cause of death was not immediately available."
>>>>>
>>>>> And apparently neither did you.
>>>>
>>>> But he did.
>>>
>>> No he didn't.
>>>
>>>> He got that the cause of death is not available. That *is* an answer!
>>>
>>> No it isn't.
>>
>> It explains what is known about the question and why it is so.
>>
>> That is the best possible reply.
>>
>> When something is a best possible reply I would call it an answer.
>
> I wouldn't. At least, if you mean "best possible reply that someone
> could make here and now", rather than "best possible reply that we can
> imagine someone making".
>
> It seems rather nihilistic to adopt the former definition. "How did the
> universe begin?", "We don't know.", and there's an answer!

I would definitely consider "according to source XX then we don't know
how the universe began" to be an answer.

And that is a better analogy to this context than "We don't know".

Arne

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#8783

Fromrossum <rossum48@coldmail.com>
Date2011-10-14 13:19 +0100
Message-ID<a4ag97tigmatu0t5dpe963i41sjtk2v9sm@4ax.com>
In reply to#8770
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote:

>Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the 
>Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of 
>computing, has died. He was 70.
>
>Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim, 
>president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>
><http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
    printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
    return 0;
}

rossum

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#8788

FromTom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Date2011-10-14 14:26 +0100
Message-ID<alpine.DEB.2.00.1110141423470.15658@urchin.earth.li>
In reply to#8783

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, rossum wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote:
>
>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of
>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>
>> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>
>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main(void)
> {
>    printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>    return 0;
> }

A patch for atheists:

--- dmr.c	2011-10-14 14:24:07.535509060 +0100
+++ dmr2.c	2011-10-14 14:24:31.291128788 +0100
@@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
  int main(void)
  {
      printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
-    return 0;
+    exit(0);
  }

tom

-- 
Programming is a skill best acquired by practice and example rather than
from books -- Alan Turing

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#8790

FromDonkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi>
Date2011-10-14 16:53 +0300
Message-ID<v6rlm8-tl5.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi>
In reply to#8788
14.10.2011 16:26, Tom Anderson kirjoitti:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, rossum wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of
>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>
>>> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>
>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>>
>>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> int main(void)
>> {
>>    printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>    return 0;
>> }
> 
> A patch for atheists:
> 
> --- dmr.c    2011-10-14 14:24:07.535509060 +0100
> +++ dmr2.c    2011-10-14 14:24:31.291128788 +0100
> @@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
>  int main(void)
>  {
>      printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
> -    return 0;
> +    exit(0);
>  }
> 
> tom
> 

#include <stdio.h>

main()
{
    printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
    exit(0);
}

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#8806

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2011-10-14 18:09 -0400
Message-ID<4e98b306$0$281$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#8790
On 10/14/2011 9:53 AM, Donkey Hottie wrote:
> 14.10.2011 16:26, Tom Anderson kirjoitti:
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, rossum wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace<-@.>  wrote:
>>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern world of
>>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>>
>>>> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>>
>>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>>>
>>>
>>> #include<stdio.h>
>>>
>>> int main(void)
>>> {
>>>     printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>>     return 0;
>>> }
>>
>> A patch for atheists:
>>
>> --- dmr.c    2011-10-14 14:24:07.535509060 +0100
>> +++ dmr2.c    2011-10-14 14:24:31.291128788 +0100
>> @@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
>>   int main(void)
>>   {
>>       printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>> -    return 0;
>> +    exit(0);
>>   }
>>
>> tom
>>
>
> #include<stdio.h>
>
> main()
> {
>      printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>      exit(0);
> }

Implicit type. Tsk tsk.

Arne

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#8814

Fromv_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert)
Date2011-10-15 09:28 +0000
Message-ID<j7bjn3$dst$2@Gaia.teknon.de>
In reply to#8806
Arne Vajh??j wrote:
> Implicit type. Tsk tsk.

GOD is REAL unless declared INTEGER.

-- 

"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <mccoy@ncc1701.starfleet.fed>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert  <v_borchert@despammed.com>

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#8849

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2011-10-15 21:43 -0400
Message-ID<4e9a36c7$0$293$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#8814
On 10/15/2011 5:28 AM, Volker Borchert wrote:
> Arne Vajh??j wrote:
>> Implicit type. Tsk tsk.
>
> GOD is REAL unless declared INTEGER.

That is FORTRAN not C!

Arne

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#8854

Fromv_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert)
Date2011-10-16 04:51 +0000
Message-ID<j7dnsk$2vr$1@Gaia.teknon.de>
In reply to#8849
Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 10/15/2011 5:28 AM, Volker Borchert wrote:
> > Arne Vajh??j wrote:
> >> Implicit type. Tsk tsk.
> >
> > GOD is REAL unless declared INTEGER.
> 
> That is FORTRAN not C!

Of course it is.

-- 

"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <mccoy@ncc1701.starfleet.fed>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert  <v_borchert@despammed.com>

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#8819

FromDonkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi>
Date2011-10-15 18:38 +0300
Message-ID<5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi>
In reply to#8806
15.10.2011 01:09, Arne Vajhøj kirjoitti:
> On 10/14/2011 9:53 AM, Donkey Hottie wrote:
>> 14.10.2011 16:26, Tom Anderson kirjoitti:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, rossum wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace<-@.>  wrote:
>>>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern
>>>>> world of
>>>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong
>>>>> Kim,
>>>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> #include<stdio.h>
>>>>
>>>> int main(void)
>>>> {
>>>>     printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>>>     return 0;
>>>> }
>>>
>>> A patch for atheists:
>>>
>>> --- dmr.c    2011-10-14 14:24:07.535509060 +0100
>>> +++ dmr2.c    2011-10-14 14:24:31.291128788 +0100
>>> @@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
>>>   int main(void)
>>>   {
>>>       printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>> -    return 0;
>>> +    exit(0);
>>>   }
>>>
>>> tom
>>>
>>
>> #include<stdio.h>
>>
>> main()
>> {
>>      printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>>      exit(0);
>> }
> 
> Implicit type. Tsk tsk.
> 
> Arne
> 
> 

The point was K&R C

main()
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
    printf("<S>\n");
    exit(0);
}

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#8850

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2011-10-15 21:51 -0400
Message-ID<4e9a38bd$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#8819
On 10/15/2011 11:38 AM, Donkey Hottie wrote:
> 15.10.2011 01:09, Arne Vajhøj kirjoitti:
>> On 10/14/2011 9:53 AM, Donkey Hottie wrote:
>>> 14.10.2011 16:26, Tom Anderson kirjoitti:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, rossum wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace<-@.>   wrote:
>>>>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>>>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today’s modern
>>>>>> world of
>>>>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ritchie’s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong
>>>>>> Kim,
>>>>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> #include<stdio.h>
>>>>>
>>>>> int main(void)
>>>>> {
>>>>>      printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>>>>      return 0;
>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> A patch for atheists:
>>>>
>>>> --- dmr.c    2011-10-14 14:24:07.535509060 +0100
>>>> +++ dmr2.c    2011-10-14 14:24:31.291128788 +0100
>>>> @@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
>>>>    int main(void)
>>>>    {
>>>>        printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>>> -    return 0;
>>>> +    exit(0);
>>>>    }
>>>>
>>>> tom
>>>>
>>>
>>> #include<stdio.h>
>>>
>>> main()
>>> {
>>>       printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>>>       exit(0);
>>> }
>>
>> Implicit type. Tsk tsk.
>>
>
> The point was K&R C
>
> main()
> int argc;
> char *argv[];
> {
>      printf("<S>\n");
>      exit(0);
> }

The arguments is a nice R touch.

Hmm - digging in memory - shouldn't i be:

main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];

?

It is a different syntax that is perfectly fine.

The default int return type is just ugly.

Arne

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#8813

Fromv_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert)
Date2011-10-15 09:27 +0000
Message-ID<j7bjll$dst$1@Gaia.teknon.de>
In reply to#8783
rossum wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote:
> 
> >Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the 
> >Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today???s modern world of 
> >computing, has died. He was 70.
> >
> >Ritchie???s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim, 
> >president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
> >
> ><http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> 
> int main(void)
> {
>     printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>     return 0;
> }

main() {
	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
	return 0;
	/* Atheists use
	exit(0);
	*/
}

-- 

"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <mccoy@ncc1701.starfleet.fed>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert  <v_borchert@despammed.com>

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#8817

FromTom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Date2011-10-15 14:43 +0100
Message-ID<alpine.DEB.2.00.1110151442360.11833@urchin.earth.li>
In reply to#8813
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Volker Borchert wrote:

> rossum wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today???s modern world of
>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>
>>> Ritchie???s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>
>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> int main(void)
>> {
>>     printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>     return 0;
>> }
>
> main() {
> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
> 	return 0;
> 	/* Atheists use
> 	exit(0);
> 	*/
> }

At least put that in an IFDEF!

tom

-- 
Rip and tear your guts! You are huge! That means you have huge guts! Rip
and tear! -- The Doomguy

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#8824

Fromv_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert)
Date2011-10-15 18:12 +0000
Message-ID<j7cier$m8t$1@Gaia.teknon.de>
In reply to#8817
Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Volker Borchert wrote:
> 
> > rossum wrote:
> >> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace <-@.> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
> >>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today???s modern world of
> >>> computing, has died. He was 70.
> >>>
> >>> Ritchie???s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
> >>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
> >>>
> >>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
> >>
> >> #include <stdio.h>
> >>
> >> int main(void)
> >> {
> >>     printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
> >>     return 0;
> >> }
> >
> > main() {
> >       printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
> >       return 0;
> >       /* Atheists use
> >       exit(0);
> >       */
> > }
> 
> At least put that in an IFDEF!

Combined with <5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi> we have now

main(argc, argv)
	int argc;
	char *argv[];
{
	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");

#ifdef ATHEIST
	exit(0);
#else
	return 0;
#endif
}

Can this be agreed upon?

-- 

"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <mccoy@ncc1701.starfleet.fed>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert  <v_borchert@despammed.com>

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#8847

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2011-10-15 21:39 -0400
Message-ID<4e9a35ea$0$293$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#8824
On 10/15/2011 2:12 PM, Volker Borchert wrote:
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Volker Borchert wrote:
>>
>>> rossum wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace<-@.>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today???s modern world of
>>>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ritchie???s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>>>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>>>
>>>> #include<stdio.h>
>>>>
>>>> int main(void)
>>>> {
>>>>      printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>>>      return 0;
>>>> }
>>>
>>> main() {
>>>        printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>>>        return 0;
>>>        /* Atheists use
>>>        exit(0);
>>>        */
>>> }
>>
>> At least put that in an IFDEF!
>
> Combined with<5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi>  we have now
>
> main(argc, argv)
> 	int argc;
> 	char *argv[];
> {
> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>
> #ifdef ATHEIST
> 	exit(0);
> #else
> 	return 0;
> #endif
> }
>
> Can this be agreed upon?

K&R style arguments is a brilliant idea for this!

Arne

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#9034

FromDavid Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca>
Date2011-10-20 12:39 -0400
Message-ID<i9Ynq.11091$UI7.2980@newsfe11.iad>
In reply to#8824
On 15/10/2011 2:12 PM, Volker Borchert wrote:
> Combined with<5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi>  we have now
>
> main(argc, argv)
> 	int argc;
> 	char *argv[];
> {
> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>
> #ifdef ATHEIST
> 	exit(0);
> #else
> 	return 0;
> #endif
> }
>
> Can this be agreed upon?

I suppose the pedants among us might argue for

#DEFINE RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS 0
  main(argc, argv)
  	int argc;
  	char *argv[];
  {
  	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");

  #ifdef ATHEIST
  	exit(RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS);
  #else
  	return RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS;
  #endif
  }

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#9039

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net>
Date2011-10-20 10:04 -0700
Message-ID<l2l0a7lqs8tsl755lhu0vmg9odc1dc3orq@4ax.com>
In reply to#9034
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:39:42 -0400, David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca>
wrote:

[snip]

>I suppose the pedants among us might argue for
>
>#DEFINE RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS 0

     0 is used as a return code for success.  I think that
EXIT_FAILURE would be a more descriptive return value.

>  main(argc, argv)
>  	int argc;
>  	char *argv[];
>  {
>  	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>
>  #ifdef ATHEIST
>  	exit(RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS);
>  #else
>  	return RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS;
>  #endif
>  }

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#9046

FromTom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Date2011-10-20 20:36 +0100
Message-ID<alpine.DEB.2.00.1110202035500.27998@urchin.earth.li>
In reply to#9034
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, David Lamb wrote:

> On 15/10/2011 2:12 PM, Volker Borchert wrote:
>> Combined with<5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi>  we have now
>> 
>> main(argc, argv)
>> 	int argc;
>> 	char *argv[];
>> {
>> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>> 
>> #ifdef ATHEIST
>> 	exit(0);
>> #else
>> 	return 0;
>> #endif
>> }
>> 
>> Can this be agreed upon?
>
> I suppose the pedants among us might argue for
>
> #DEFINE RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS 0
> main(argc, argv)
> 	int argc;
> 	char *argv[];
> {
> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>
> #ifdef ATHEIST
> 	exit(RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS);
> #else
> 	return RITCHIE_LIFE_STATUS;
> #endif
> }

Oh, definitely. Makes it much more reusable.

tom

-- 
Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid

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#9077

FromJan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2011-10-21 20:42 +0200
Message-ID<j7see6$b24$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#8824
Volker Borchert schrieb:
> Combined with<5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi>  we have now
>
> main(argc, argv)
> 	int argc;
> 	char *argv[];
> {
> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>
> #ifdef ATHEIST
> 	exit(0);
> #else
> 	return 0;
> #endif
> }
>
> Can this be agreed upon?

  	return(0);

So that the newbee thinks return is a function.

Bye

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#9082

FromDaniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net>
Date2011-10-21 18:54 -0700
Message-ID<qnpoq.9$dz5.5@newsfe13.iad>
In reply to#9077
On 10/21/11 11:42 AM, Jan Burse wrote:
> Volker Borchert schrieb:
>> Combined with<5mlom8-vij.ln1@hurricane.fredriksson.dy.fi> we have now
>>
>> main(argc, argv)
>> int argc;
>> char *argv[];
>> {
>> printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
>>
>> #ifdef ATHEIST
>> exit(0);
>> #else
>> return 0;
>> #endif
>> }
>>
>> Can this be agreed upon?
>
> return(0);
>
> So that the newbee thinks return is a function.
>
> Bye


Actually, I would just suggest this evil alternative:

#ifdef ATHEIST
#define return exit
#endif

main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
    printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
    return(0);
}

Yes, I can be evil when I want to be.

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#8846

FromArne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Date2011-10-15 21:37 -0400
Message-ID<4e9a354c$0$293$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#8813
On 10/15/2011 5:27 AM, Volker Borchert wrote:
> rossum wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:20:00 -0700, markspace<-@.>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis Ritchie, whose work creating the C programming language and the
>>> Unix operating system became the cornerstone of today???s modern world of
>>> computing, has died. He was 70.
>>>
>>> Ritchie???s death was announced Wednesday in a staff memo from Jeong Kim,
>>> president of Bell Labs, where Ritchie worked from 1967 to 2007.
>>>
>>> <http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/10/13/dennis-ritchie-computer-pioneer-dies-at-70/?tsp=1>
>>
>> #include<stdio.h>
>>
>> int main(void)
>> {
>>      printf("Goodbye, world.\n");
>>      return 0;
>> }
>
> main() {
> 	printf("Goodbye, World.\n");
> 	return 0;
> 	/* Atheists use
> 	exit(0);
> 	*/
> }

#ifdef

Arne

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