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  NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ "SL@maxis" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> - 2012-12-07 15:08 +0800
    Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ "SL@maxis" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> - 2012-12-07 15:11 +0800
      Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-07 08:33 -0500
    Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-07 08:32 -0500
    Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-07 10:59 -0800
      Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ markspace <-@.> - 2012-12-07 12:16 -0800
      Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ "SL@maxis" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> - 2012-12-08 10:24 +0800
        Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-07 21:32 -0500
        Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ markspace <-@.> - 2012-12-07 18:56 -0800
          Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-07 22:06 -0500
        Re: NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++ Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-08 13:04 -0800

#20147 — NetBeans on Linux/Android: Java, C/C++

I am thinking of writing C/C++, java for Linux and Android, on desktop of  
course.

Any problem with NetBeans. Trying to kill 3 birds with one stone.

Thanks.

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#20148

>
> I am thinking of writing C/C++, java for Linux and Android, on desktop  
> of course.
>
> Any problem with NetBeans. Trying to kill 3 birds with one stone.
>
> Thanks.
>

Someone recommended that debugging should be done with GDB. Any comment ?

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#20156

On 12/7/2012 2:11 AM, SL@maxis wrote:
>> I am thinking of writing C/C++, java for Linux and Android, on desktop
>> of course.
>>
>> Any problem with NetBeans. Trying to kill 3 birds with one stone.
>
> Someone recommended that debugging should be done with GDB. Any comment ?

Use whatever NB provides.

I would assume that to be a GUI on top of GDB for C/C++.

Arne

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#20155

On 12/7/2012 2:08 AM, SL@maxis wrote:
> I am thinking of writing C/C++, java for Linux and Android, on desktop
> of course.
>
> Any problem with NetBeans. Trying to kill 3 birds with one stone.

No.

(Eclipse is a bit more widely used, but NB is fine)

Arne

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#20158

SL@maxis wrote:
> I am thinking of writing C/C++, java [sic] for Linux and Android, on desktop of  
> course.

Android on desktop? Interesting. I don't see the "of course" in that. 

> Any problem with NetBeans. Trying to kill 3 birds with one stone.

Eclipse does Android screen layouts in a GUI model, although I am not so comfortable 
with it personally. I do prefer Eclipse for Android development. Its ADK plugin is good,
albeit little more than a wrapper for command-line "android ..." commands.

NetBeans does Swing GUIs better than Eclipse, from what I've read. Its GUI programming 
assistance is rather good, once you get used to the dance of property sheets for event 
handlers and how to write your helper methods outside the protected areas.

I ignore SWT.

I like NetBeans better for C/C++ and general Java development (Java SE, EE). Both products work 
well as dashboards for enterprise work, i.e., to monitor app servers, DBMSes, message 
beans, queues, yada. I'm personally more comfortable with NetBeans's style options - 
it doesn't have as many as Eclipse which is better to some, not to others.

Both integrate with lint and bug-hunting tools like FindBugs and have good extensible 
(and platform) architectures. You need Aptana for Eclipse (or its standalone equivalent) 
if you're doing Javascript in Eclipse.

"Debugging should be done with GDB"? Whatever. GDB doesn't integrate well with 
NB or Eclipse that I've heard, but hey, I don't know. It does integrate simply beautifully 
with emacs. GDB is useless for Java.

If you're using an IDE, you've already got a debugger. I don't know why you'd need two.

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Lew

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#20160

On 12/7/2012 10:59 AM, Lew wrote:
> SL@maxis wrote:
>> I am thinking of writing C/C++, java [sic] for Linux and Android, on desktop of
>> course.
>
> Android on desktop? Interesting. I don't see the "of course" in that.

I was thinking "buzzword compliance, of course."  Although Android 
development does often take place on a desktop, and Google has an 
emulator that does run Android apps on your desktop development system.

That said, I was also thinking "auto-generated spam without the 
involvement of human cognition, of course."

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#20173

> Eclipse does Android screen layouts in a GUI model, although I am not so  
> comfortable
> with it personally. I do prefer Eclipse for Android development. Its ADK  
> plugin is good,
> albeit little more than a wrapper for command-line "android ..."  
> commands.
>
> ....
>
> If you're using an IDE, you've already got a debugger. I don't know why  
> you'd need two.
>

OK, Thanks.

Seems like I better have two, Eclipse for Android, Netbeans for Java and  
C/C++.

Actually "on desktop", I was thinking of Linux on desktop.

NetBeans cannot run on Android device, I suppose.

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#20174

On 12/7/2012 9:24 PM, SL@maxis wrote:
>> Eclipse does Android screen layouts in a GUI model, although I am not
>> so comfortable
>> with it personally. I do prefer Eclipse for Android development. Its
>> ADK plugin is good,
>> albeit little more than a wrapper for command-line "android ..."
>> commands.

> Seems like I better have two, Eclipse for Android, Netbeans for Java and
> C/C++.
>
> Actually "on desktop", I was thinking of Linux on desktop.
>
> NetBeans cannot run on Android device, I suppose.

NetBeans is done using Swing and Android does not support
Swing, so ...

Arne

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#20178

On 12/7/2012 6:24 PM, SL@maxis wrote:
>
> Seems like I better have two, Eclipse for Android, Netbeans for Java and
> C/C++.

Nothing wrong with two, but I'm sure Eclipse does both Android and Java.

I know NetBeans does Java, Android, and C/C++, if you're interested in 
using one IDE.  NetBeans even recognizes my C/C++ install of Cygwin 
(Unix port running on top of Windows) and will use that as my C/C++ 
compiler if I ask it too.

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#20179

On 12/7/2012 9:56 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 12/7/2012 6:24 PM, SL@maxis wrote:
>>
>> Seems like I better have two, Eclipse for Android, Netbeans for Java and
>> C/C++.
>
> Nothing wrong with two, but I'm sure Eclipse does both Android and Java.
>
> I know NetBeans does Java, Android, and C/C++, if you're interested in
> using one IDE.  NetBeans even recognizes my C/C++ install of Cygwin
> (Unix port running on top of Windows) and will use that as my C/C++
> compiler if I ask it too.

Eclipse also does C/C++.

Arne

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#20187

SL@maxis wrote:
> Seems like I better have two, Eclipse for Android, Netbeans for Java and  
> C/C++.

Either one will do all you want, minus some details. For example, it annoys 
me that Eclipse doesn't have a good shell editor, and that NetBeans doesn't 
have a good graphical layout tool for Android projects. Otherwise I use either 
one as project standards or my mood dictate.

I don't happen to mind specifying layouts in XML through a text editor. Much.

They differ somewhat in style, options, how they interact with the file system, 
use of source control systems, styles of project, how their wizards work and 
so on.

You might like one better than the other.

> Actually "on desktop", I was thinking of Linux on desktop.

It's a pretty comfortable development environment.

> NetBeans cannot run on Android device, I suppose.

Neither does Eclipse.

-- 
Lew

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