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  Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks." "Capa Espírito" <capa.espírito@1:261/38.remove-s5y-this> - 2012-08-02 19:12 +0000
    Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks." "Nadegda" <nadegda@1:261/38.remove-s5y-this> - 2012-08-02 19:12 +0000

#16990 — Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks."

From: Capa Esp0rito <_@.example>

one busted puppet wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:04:36 GMT, This account has been banned because it
>violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use wrote:
>
>> (http://www.aioe.org/statistics/news-notice.2012.03.01-03.01.22.html)
>
>So you're relying, once again, on a timing coincidence.
>
I am reading all of the post.
Time is Time.
You can say it is coincidence, however you or I saying so does not make it so.

[...]
>
>You can keep posting more of this so-called "evidence". I can keep poking
>holes in it. So when do you give up, kooky?
>
"kooky?"
Your post was halfway believable up to this point where it became a hate poast.

When Arne made the post to c.l.j.p (detailed below) did you respond at that 
time
with the same "coincidence" argument for the shared IP addresses? When you have 
bragged about instigating cancels of NSP accounts for your various nemesis did 
you consider the help desk you wrote to would one day read your "coincidence" 
as not being a coincidence in the full light of history as
the truth comes to pass?
Convince me you are not indeed the lying conniving SOB many have pointed to in 
all your slightly differing modes, Seamus.

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:52:33 -0500
From: Arne Vajhoj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Jerry Gerrone wrote:
> On Nov 17, 2:54 am, Paul Derbyshire <pgd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> So, he really DOES exist.
>
>> I've known about this nonsense for a while but I ignored it until now.
>> Now I've decided it's gotten out of hand.
>
> No, that actually happened at least a year ago.
>
>> Someone evidently mistook "Twisted" (though he seems to call himself
>> everything *but* Twisted) for me
>
> That "someone" calls himself Hunter Gratzner, and his erroneous
> speculations have since spread far further than ever was merited. (The
> speculator in question does not even seem to use this newsgroup.) So

Credibility: zero

Internet usage skills: zero

From: hzergel901@gmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Possible bug in Calendar
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:45:24 -0800 (PST)
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From: Paul Derbyshire <pgderb@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Possible bug in Calendar
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From: Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Possible bug in Calendar
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IP      :       74.14.135.55         Neighborhood
Host    :       bas1-ottawa10-1242466103.dsl.bell.ca    OK
Country         :       Canada

Arne


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#16991

  To: Capa Espírito
From: Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid>

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:22:36 -0600, Capa Esp- rito wrote:

> one busted puppet wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:04:36 GMT, This account has been banned because
>>it violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use wrote:
>>
>>> (http://www.aioe.org/statistics/news-notice.2012.03.01-03.01.22.html)
>>
>>So you're relying, once again, on a timing coincidence.
>>
> I am reading all of the post.
> Time is Time.
> You can say it is coincidence, however you or I saying so does not make
> it so.

Hi, Morphy.

I see you snipped all of the numerous *other* holes I poked in Account Banned's 
latest heap of "evidence". I wonder why? Any *single one* of those holes leaves 
Account Banned's k'lame completely unsubstantiated, once again, so he, or you, 
would have to plug ALL of them.

And I could go on poking more and more holes just in what he's already posted. 
If he posts more, I'll poke more holes. How can I be so confident that I'll be 
able to poke more holes? Because I know, as a matter of fact, that he is 
*wrong*. And so are you.

You're like any paranoid conspiracy theorists: coincidence as evidence, 
spurious patterns as proof, and anyone disagreeing with you is instantly 
labeled as being certainly also one of the enemy. Andrew Wilson argues against 
you? Instantly you label him a "Derbyshire sock" too. Phoenix argues against 
you? You label him one. I argue against you? You label me one. Traffic-monitor 
votes you for some July kook awards and adds "This nym-shifting skidmark is a 
fucking kook. In fact he's a viable candidate for kook of the century." Danny 
Serlot labels *him* one.

Want to play another round? It will have the same results as the last two
-- the only people you convince will be yourselves, while I tear the
conspiracy theory to shreds, Account Banned gets another round of SPNAK! s, you 
morph some more, you get killfiled some more, and still nobody takes you or 
your kooky theories seriously except a few of your fellow kooks.

This game of trying to "prove" that kensi is Derbyshire is clearly stalemated. 
And since the burden of proof is on the accusers, that means that you have 
lost. You can stave off the appearance of defeat by piling up a stack of 
coincidences miles high but you cannot actually win. Are you going to waste 
more of your time and more of your life on what is, for you, already a 
years-long futile quest? Or are you going to throw in the towel and admit that 
you might be wrong and find something more constructive to do with your life 
than trying to outerfilth kensi and other people for the high crime of rubbing 
you the wrong way and therefore being suspected Derbyshire socks?

Are you going to apologize to whoever actually lives in that trailer you posted 
a photo of?

Keep in mind, I've only spent a month at demolishing your garbage and kensi a 
year or so, while you've wasted the better part of a decade now tilting at 
various windmills you mistook for this Derbyshire. A month from now and someone 
else might be doign the demolishing. Nobody loses more than a few weeks of 
summer vacation time or other idle time debunking your demented delusions, 
while you lose year after year doing little else but spamming your screeds all 
over usenet.

It's time you quit, Morphy, before you look in the mirror one day, see an old 
man, and break down in tears upon realizing how much of your life you let slip 
by because of this "Derbyshire" obsession when you could have been out having 
fun or something instead.

Usenet isn't worth wasting years of your life chasing ghosts.

And I mean all of that sincerely. I guess some of kensi's attitude of trying to 
help kooks and not just mock them has rubbed off on me.

Now it's almost 3 AM. I've wasted enough time on kooks for one day so it's 
beddy-bye for me now.

Think the above over, carefully, before we meet again.

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