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Re: A strange behaviour of a File property

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From	Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject	Re: A strange behaviour of a File property
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Date	2011-11-13 12:42 +0000

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Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 8:15 PM, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
>> Arne Vajhøj<arne@vajhoej.dk>  wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2011 10:21 PM, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
>>>> Eric Sosman<esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid>   wrote:
>>>>> IMHO, Java errs in exposing any "path separator" at all, because
>>>>> it just encourages string-bashing.  Note that in some file systems
>>>>> there is no such thing as a "path separator;" on one such I had
>>>>> files with names like
>>>>> 	SYS$DISK:[USERS.ERIC.PROJECT]README.TXT;22
>>>> Such beasts still exist in the wild?
>>> $ type DISK2:[ARNE]HELLOWORLD.JAVA;1
>> This doesn't yet answer the "in the wild"-part:   Is that a machine
>> still in productive use, or is it merely running under a VAX-emulator
>> on a PC (just for playing around)? :-)
> There are still some in production use.
> The one used is hobbyist only though.

These aren't sufficient criteria for "non-obsolete" in my own dictionary ;)

>> Anyway, as it seems (gathered from googled pages), java is able to
>> translate paths like "/disk2/arne/helloworld.java" to what the
>> system understands, so there'd not really be much of a need for a Java
>> programmer to explicitly deal with those path construction pecularities.
> I consider it very relevant for an Java app to be able to handle
> native file name syntax - after all that is what most likely
> will be specified in config files and manually entered.

If a Java application making use of "/"-heuristics on filenames was deployed
to an openvms platform, then likely those who deploy it will have to explain
to the users how to specify paths for that app.  That's bad luck for systems
on the waning side of their project life cycle.

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A strange behaviour of a File property alelvb@inwind.it - 2011-11-11 05:45 -0800
  Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-11 07:34 -0800
    Re: A strange behaviour of a File property alelvb@inwind.it - 2011-11-11 09:28 -0800
      Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-11 14:17 -0800
        Re: A strange behaviour of a File property alelvb@inwind.it (Alexo) - 2011-11-12 15:04 +0100
          Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-12 09:15 -0500
            Re: A strange behaviour of a File property alelvb@inwind.it (Alexo) - 2011-11-12 16:17 +0100
              Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Zlatko Đurić <zladuric@gmail.com> - 2011-11-12 16:09 +0100
              Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-12 10:13 -0500
  Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-11 16:25 +0000
    Re: A strange behaviour of a File property alelvb@inwind.it - 2011-11-11 09:42 -0800
      Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-11 13:24 -0500
    Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-11 14:13 -0800
    Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-11 20:38 -0500
      Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-12 03:21 +0000
        Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-12 08:26 -0500
          Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-12 22:09 +0000
            Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 17:40 -0500
              Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 01:28 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 20:42 -0500
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 12:15 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-13 12:42 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 13:06 +0000
        Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 17:25 -0500
          Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 01:15 +0000
            Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 20:40 -0500
              Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 12:42 +0000
            Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-12 21:11 -0500
              Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 20:50 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-14 08:18 -0500
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-14 17:38 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-14 21:51 -0500
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-15 14:17 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-15 22:20 -0500
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-16 12:14 +0000
                Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-16 08:10 -0500
      Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-11 19:46 -0800
      Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com> - 2011-11-14 00:24 -0500
        Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-13 22:00 -0800
  Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-12 05:00 -0800
    Re: A strange behaviour of a File property Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-12 09:15 -0500

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