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Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !!

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On 12/07/2012 02:09 AM, jebblue wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:02:59 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
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>> I recommend using the server best supports the features you need.
>> Software developers aren't paid lots of money to make decisions based on
>> FUD.  There's good reason for Restlet, Jetty, Resin, Tomcat, and other
>> engines existing.
>
> FUD? Nope. Mistake yes, FUD no, not at all. When WebSphere or
> WebLogic decide to switch to Jetty I'll look at it again.
>
I'm with Kevin on this one. And bear in mind, when you say "WebSphere" 
or "WebLogic" it's not like you've got this dedicated team of web 
container experts, with each app server development staff, that 
constantly evaluates servlet containers and gets their decisions quickly 
acted upon.

In practice the resources allocated for software development on a major 
JEE app server are less than you might think. Most are probably either 
fixing bugs or designing/implementing new features (which latter is 
driven by the marketers). If an included/embedded web/servlet container 
is cutting it, and that original choice probably came down to one or a 
small handful of people way back when (so why do they know more than 
you, exactly?), and the cost of *change* is probably not justifiable for 
incremental improvements achieved by using another container, why do you 
think that what a major app server uses gives you any major guidance at all?

Other than that what they use is good for them. It's possibly not the 
_best_ for them at any given time. It's very possibly not the best 
choice for anyone else's requirements, although you can expect it to be 
adequate.

AHS

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Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! "sl@exabyte" <sb5309@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-10 22:06 +0800
  Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! markspace <-@.> - 2012-11-10 08:09 -0800
    Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! "sl@exabyte" <sb5309@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-11 00:21 +0800
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! markspace <-@.> - 2012-11-10 08:31 -0800
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! "William Bonawentura" <nie@ma.mnie.pl> - 2012-11-12 07:38 +0100
        Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! "sl@exabyte" <sb5309@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-12 22:13 +0800
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-10 22:20 -0500
  Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2012-11-10 13:23 -0800
    Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! "sl@exabyte" <sb5309@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-11 21:30 +0800
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2012-11-13 00:44 -0800
    Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! "sl@exabyte" <sb5309@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-11 21:37 +0800
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-10 22:24 -0500
    Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! jebblue <n@n.nnn> - 2012-11-23 11:26 -0600
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2012-11-28 21:02 -0800
        Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! jebblue <n@n.nnn> - 2012-12-07 00:09 -0600
          Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2012-12-07 06:43 -0400
          Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-09 18:42 -0500
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2012-11-29 11:30 +0100
        Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! jebblue <n@n.nnn> - 2012-12-07 00:12 -0600
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-09 10:01 -0800
      Re: Java servlet, comet, long polling, websocket: I am consused !! Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-12-09 18:30 -0500

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