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Re: can't return value

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On 9/13/2012 1:15 AM, bilsch wrote:
> On 9/12/2012 4:11 AM, Eric Sosman wrote:
>> On 9/12/2012 3:36 AM, bilsch wrote:
>>>[...]
>> You need to decide what to do if there is no space in
>> `wholeName': throw an exception, return `null', whatever you
>> like -- but the compiler will not allow you to just ignore
>> the possibility.
>> [...]
> thanks for your reply.  I got it to work two different ways. Could you
> explain returning NULL? Also, I don't know what exception to throw or
> how to do it.

     Any variable that refers to an object -- a String, a List,
or whatever -- can have the special value `null' (not `NULL')
to indicate that it "refers to nothing" at the moment.  Methods
that return object references can return `null' to indicate
"I've got nothing to give you."  If your method returns, it
must return some value; I'm suggesting that if your method
could not do its job, `null' is a value you might consider
returning.  It's just a special value you might decide should
mean "I couldn't find a last name in `wholeName'."

     Another possibility is to throw an exception: The method
tries to find a last name, discovers that `wholeName' doesn't
contain one, and says "Hey, stupid caller: You fed me garbage!"
In the case at hand, IllegalArgumentException seems a likely
candidate, so the method could announce its displeasure with

	throw new IllegalArgumentException(
	    "no last name in " + wholeName);

When a method terminates by throwing an exception it does not
need to return a value, because in truth it doesn't "return"
at all: It abruptly stops what it was doing, and what all its
callers were doing, up to the point where some caller has a
`try {...} catch' for the type of exception thrown.

     Bilsch, this is very elementary stuff, the sort of thing
you will find in any introductory textbook or tutorial on Java.
I suggest you consult one; trying to learn the language one
corrected blunder at a time is not very efficient.  You might
also think about using comp.lang.java.help for elementary
questions; comp.lang.java.programmer is (in theory) a forum
for people who already know the basics and are tackling more
advanced issues.  (Note the "in theory.")

     CC'ed, and follow-ups set.

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid
"The speed at which the system fails is usually not important."

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can't return value "bilsch" <king621@comcast.net> - 2012-09-12 00:36 -0700
  Re: can't return value Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-12 07:11 -0400
    Re: can't return value bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-12 22:15 -0700
      Re: can't return value Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-09-13 08:53 -0400
  Re: can't return value Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2012-09-12 15:32 +0300
    Re: can't return value bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-12 22:37 -0700
      Re: can't return value Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-09-12 23:17 -0700
        Re: can't return value markspace <-@.> - 2012-09-13 01:11 -0700
          Re: can't return value Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-09-13 10:53 -0700
      Re: can't return value Stuart <DerTopper@web.de> - 2012-09-13 09:45 +0200
        Re: can't return value "bilsch" <king621@comcast.net> - 2012-09-13 03:55 -0700
        Re: can't return value Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2012-09-13 15:06 +0300
          Re: can't return value Stuart <DerTopper@web.de> - 2012-09-13 20:53 +0200
  Re: can't return value Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-09-12 20:54 -0700

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