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Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop!

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On 06/08/2012 10:06 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> Why did you change the spelling of "D3rbyshire" in the quoted material?

AIOE sometimes doesn't allow posting with that word in the subject or 
body. I assume that also has something to do with the disruptive freaks 
like "uBend", and/or an attempt by that server's admin to limit the 
disruption (which, obviously, isn't proving very effective).

It's somewhat intermittent; I think the admin removes the filter after a 
while or it expires automatically, then when the disruption from Morphy 
and a few other like-minded twits continues, adds it back again. That's 
been going on for maybe a full year now.

> I was trying to make sure that this sub-thread would be invisible to
> anyone who has chosen to killfile all messages containing that name.

The last time I checked, killfiles worked on only a subset of message 
headers -- mainly From, Message-ID, Subject, and a couple of other 
fields. A few newsreaders claim to be able to killfile on any header, 
though I assume they have to download the message to apply filters on 
headers other than the usual ones. I can't ever recall hearing of one 
that can killfile on body text.

> Misquoting is always discourteous to the person you are misquoting, and
> in this particular case is also discourteous to anyone using a killfile
> for that purpose.

Take it up with AIOE's admin, then.

>> You just replied to the biggest D3rbyshire-obsessed spammer of them all,
>> without knowing it.
>
> It is unfortunately impossible to participate in USENET as long as I
> have without becoming aware of the phenomenon. However, I am glad to say
> that I am totally ignorant of the who's-who of the whole spam team, and
> intend to stay that way.
>
> I just wish everyone who does care about who is or is not Paul
> Derbyshire would take themselves off to a newsgroup dedicated to the
> subject, and leave the rest of the newsgroups for discussion of their
> proper topics.

That isn't going to happen, because they are, as you noted, spammers. 
They have a particular message that they feel is so important that they 
must shove it in front of as many eyeballs as possible, and netiquette 
be damned. Hence the off-topic crossposts, excessive multiposts, and 
morphing to escape killfiles. That they're doing this not for commercial 
gain but out of, essentially, religious reasons does not really make a 
difference to the methods of a usenet spammer. And that they ruin their 
own credibility by behaving in such a manner (especially since those 
that oppose them remain calm and rational and do not spam, rather than 
stooping to their level) also seems to be beyond their capacity to 
grasp, sadly.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

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[OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Lew" <lew@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
  Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
    Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Arne Vajhøj" <arne.vajhøj@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Arne Vajhøj" <arne.vajhøj@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "uBend" <ubend@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
            Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "kensi" <kensi@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
              Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-08-06 07:06 -0700
                Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-06 21:52 +0200
                Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.invalid> - 2012-08-06 22:21 -0400
              Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "uBend" <ubend@1:261/38.remove-sao-this> - 2012-08-06 18:08 +0000
                Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "kensi" <kensi@1:261/38.remove-sao-this> - 2012-08-06 18:08 +0000
                Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Nadegda" <nadegda@1:261/38.remove-sao-this> - 2012-08-06 18:08 +0000
          Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Nadegda" <nadegda@1:261/38.remove-sao-this> - 2012-08-06 18:08 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Joerg Meier" <joerg.meier@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "markspace" <markspace@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Eric Sosman" <eric.sosman@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
      Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Daniel Pitts" <daniel.pitts@1:261/38.remove-2y0-this> - 2012-08-05 18:42 +0000
        Re: [OT] Who's echoing all posts redundantly? Please stop! "Nomen Nescio" <nomen.nescio@1:261/38.remove-9l6-this> - 2012-08-05 19:44 +0000

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