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Re: terminology

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On 4/19/2012 5:17 PM, Lew wrote:

> Stefan Ram wrote:
>> java.lang.Thread     . dumpStack() java.lang.System.out . print( 2
>> )
>>
>> I do call the source code part in front of the last dot a
>> /context/.

>
> Fully-qualified type name.
> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-6.html#jls-6.5.5.2>


I'd have said the same off the top of my head.  I'd also call it a
"class" if FQN was a bit long, or I was being less strict in my speaking.

>
>> I do call the simple name between the last dot and the first
>> parentheses a /verb/. (So a verb does never contain a dot.)
>
> Simple method name.
> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-6.html#jls-6.5.7.1>


"Method" or "method invocation" works for me.


>> (I do /not/ call this »method name«, since I want to exclude texts
>> with dots, like »>java.lang.Thread.dumpStack«, which are also
>> method names in Java AFAIK.)
>
> Qualified method name.
> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-6.html#jls-6.5.7.2>


Or identifier, or "method name," imo.


>> I do call the simple call after the last dot up to the last
>> parentheses a /sentence/.
>
> Method invocation expression, except that includes the qualifier.
> There is no standard term for what you call a "sentence", nor would
> most Java programs have the faintest clue what you mean by that
> word.
> <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-15.html#jls-15.12>


Also  "statement" if there's a ; at the end, I think.


>
>> (I do /not/ call this »[method ]call«, since the whole lines
>> including the dots are also called »[method ]calls« or »[method
>> ]invocations« in Java.)
>
> There's always a qualifier in a method invocation, so there is no
> such thing as an invocation without one. The qualifier is just
> implicit by the grace of 'import', but it's explicit in the JVM
> regardless.


I'm not sure.  If you're invoking a method that is a member of an 
enclosing class or type, you don't need to qualify it.  "wait()", 
"notify()", etc. never need to be qualified if "this" is the qualifier.

As for "the whole line is an invocation," this is a statement with two 
invocations:

   double d = Math.sin(1.0) + Math.cos(1.0);

I don't think the "whole line" can be an invocations, it's just that you 
happen to have a method call, expression, and statement that are all the 
same thing in that one particular example.  That won't always be true.

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Re: terminology Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 17:17 -0700
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    Re: terminology Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-20 07:09 -0300
    Re: terminology Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-20 08:05 -0700
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    Re: "static context" Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-21 04:15 -0700

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