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Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting?

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On 3/19/2012 7:25 PM, Lew wrote:
> On 03/19/2012 07:03 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 3/19/2012 9:56 PM, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>> On 3/19/2012 6:34 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 3/19/2012 2:21 PM, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>>>> On 3/19/2012 11:04 AM, Daniel Pitts wrote:
>>>>>>> What exactly to you mean by Java hosting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, the two features I really need are the ability to run Java apps
>>>>>> (webapps or otherwise), and to have shell access (so I can manage the
>>>>>> app's data directories).
>>>>>
>>>>> You want to run a Java app in the server? I'm not sure what you
>>>>> mean by
>>>>> webapp.
>>>>
>>>> A Java web app usually mean a war running in a servlet container.
>>>
>>> And a servlet would require Tomcat or something like it on the
>>> webserver? Do you need JavaEE to create servlets or on the server?
>
> Tomcat (or something like it) is the web server.
>
> Yes, you need a Java EE-conformant server to run servlets. To create
> them you only need the right JARs.
>
>> Well known standalone servlet containers are Tomcat and Resin.
>>
>> Any full Java EE app server contains a servlet container.
>>
>> Servlet/JSP/JSF are a subset of Java EE.
>>
>>>> "Java web app" seems as common a term as "PHP web app" or
>>>> "ASP.NET web app" to me.
>>>
>>> I've run Java programs on my computer before that acted as a server.
>>> Managing them was a little difficult without creating a control
>>> mechanism but they worked fine.
>
> But those aren't "web apps".
>
>> It is certainly possible to run Java SE servers.
>>
>> Usually that means a a socket server with a custom
>> protocol not HTTP.
>
> And such an application is not normally called a "web app". The term
> "web app[lication]", as Arne says, is the conventional nomenclature for
> an application running in a web-based application server such as Tomcat
> or Glassfish.
>
> If you aren't familiar with Java EE, here are some good references to
> get you started:
>
> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/index.html>
> <http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/index.html>
> <https://www.ibm.com/search/csass/search/?sn=dw&lang=en&cc=US&en=utf&hpp=20&dws=dw&q=Java+EE&Search=Search>
>
> <http://glassfish.java.net/docs/index.html>
>

Thanks Lew and Arne for the info.  This isn't my area of knowledge but I 
was curious what Daniel was looking for.

-- 

Knute Johnson

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Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-03-19 09:59 -0700
  Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2012-03-19 10:06 -0700
    Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-03-19 11:04 -0700
      Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2012-03-19 11:21 -0700
        Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-03-19 12:07 -0700
          Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-19 20:46 +0100
            Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-03-19 21:01 +0100
        Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-19 21:34 -0400
          Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2012-03-19 18:56 -0700
            Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-19 22:03 -0400
              Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-03-19 19:25 -0700
                Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2012-03-19 21:26 -0700
                Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-03-20 10:14 -0700
                Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-20 19:53 -0400
                Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-20 19:49 -0400
                Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? markspace <-@.> - 2012-03-20 18:05 -0700
                Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-20 21:16 -0400
  Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2012-03-19 10:10 -0700
  Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-03-19 21:35 -0400
  Re: Where to find decent free or cheap Java hosting? Chris Stefanich <stefanich@gmail.com> - 2012-03-23 13:45 -0700

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