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Re: Is there a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5

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On 07/11/2011 9:22 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 9/23/2011 5:46 AM,
> supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations
> wrote:
>> It may be completely standard, but it is also the case that Java 1.5 is
>> outdated and lacking in numerous features and other enhancements that
>> are found in Java 6 and Java 7. HP should really migrate to Java 7 in
>> preference to supporting Java 1.5.
>
> I would assume HP knows more about their customers needs than you.

Unless their customers are very unusual (some sort of nouveau-Amish that 
decided to freeze their technology level at 2002 or something?), then 
it's pretty much a given that they want (at least the option of) the 
latest and greatest.

This is much as if HP were shipping computers running Windows 98 instead 
of Vista and/or Windows 7. It doesn't matter if they keep supporting it 
-- Microsoft isn't anymore, and is the software's ultimate source, and 
furthermore the world has largely moved on, making compatibility an 
issue; and Windows 98 is unstable and full of bugs and security holes 
that a) are by now very widely known and b) are fixed in newer versions 
of Windows.

I doubt you'd think it at all sensible for HP to ship computers running 
Windows 98 and refuse to support any newer version of Windows, even if 
they provided support for the obsolescent version they did ship. So why 
do you think differently when it's obsolescent versions of the JRE and JDK?

>> But ultimately it's their (inferred) lack of support for Java 7, rather
>> than their support for 1.5, that is at issue.
>
> The issue you raised was about Java 1.5.

Obviously not, since I just explicitly said that it's lack of support 
for Java 7 that's the (greater?) sin.

P.S. What got it into your head to drag this old, settled argument back 
up out of the group's archive months later and suddenly start disputing 
things again? Did you get bored and decide we needed a good 
old-fashioned flamewar around here to make things entertaining or 
something? Because I'm sure you're aware that the group's expressed 
purpose is neither flamage nor your personal entertainment but 
good-faith discussion of Java programming...also, you chose the wrong 
person to try to pick a fight with. If you want a descent into serious 
incivility, without being seen as the one to descend to that level first 
yourself, I won't oblige. I'd suggest you take Twisted's name in vain, 
but even he has apparently mellowed out; I doubt you'd get more of a 
rise out of him these days than a polite, but firm, "none of the nasty 
things are true" type of response. :) (But please don't even try it. I 
don't think we would benefit by the group being disrupted with a 
flamewar or a serious attempt to provoke one.)

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Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-07 21:22 -0500
  Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> - 2011-11-07 22:20 -0500
    Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 spk <jhic@speak.invalid> - 2011-11-08 01:32 -0400
      Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-11-08 15:56 -0500
    Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-08 06:54 -0800
      Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-08 21:03 -0500
        Re: Is there  a file limit size of 2GB in JDK 1.5 Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-11-08 19:11 -0800

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