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Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java

From Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid>
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Subject Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java
Date 2011-10-26 20:45 -0500
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On 10/24/2011 5:07 PM, saxo123@gmx.de wrote:
> I lately applied for quite an ineresting Java job. It turned out that
> I would also have to teach Perl programmers Java. Now, there's the
> rub... I once had to teach SAP developers Java. That was a little
> nightmare. The SAP programmers were not all interested, had basically
> no interest in computer science as such. Worst of all the boss thought
> Java was something like SAP just from a different manufacturer and
> everybody could learn it like SAP itself. I fear this could turn out
> the same again with teaching Perl programmers Java ...

I'll admit that I don't really know Perl (I can muddle my way through 
reading it, but I have no hope of writing it anytime soon), so I'm 
probably more liable to grasp at stereotypes than honest truths.

My first thought of Perl is that it is often used for "little" scripts 
(e.g., a script that looks through a log file to find more useful data). 
I do know that it has some vague object-oriented features, but I believe 
that this feature lacks things like virtual methods and inheritance that 
are normally associated with object-oriented paradigms.

I suspect that you will most notably find grousing about explicit static 
typing, as opposed to Perl's implicit duck typing. To a lesser degree, 
people may grouse about Java needing to put methods in classes. It is 
possible (I'm really bordering on stereotype here) that your Perl 
programmers may grouse about how much more difficult it is to do textual 
manipulation in Java compared to Perl, particularly in the difficulty of 
handling stdin and running regexes.

-- 
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not 
tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth

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Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java saxo123@gmx.de - 2011-10-24 15:07 -0700
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java markspace <-@.> - 2011-10-24 16:10 -0700
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-05 22:16 -0400
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java William Colls <william.colls@rogers.com> - 2011-10-24 22:24 -0400
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-10-25 07:06 +0000
      Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2011-10-25 10:03 -0700
        Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-25 20:00 -0700
          Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-10-26 20:59 +0000
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java saxo123@gmx.de - 2011-10-25 02:48 -0700
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-10-25 04:18 -0700
      Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Ten Blade <ten.blade@tenblade.com> - 2011-10-26 13:49 +0000
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java saxo123@gmx.de - 2011-10-26 00:52 -0700
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Wojtek <nowhere@a.com> - 2011-10-26 23:27 -0700
      Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java saxo123@gmx.de - 2011-10-27 00:58 -0700
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-10-27 08:07 -0700
      Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-10-27 10:18 -0700
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-10-26 08:35 -0700
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-26 21:51 +0100
      Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2011-10-27 11:32 +0100
        Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Jef <e70838@gmail.com> - 2011-10-27 05:45 -0700
        Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-10-27 10:28 -0700
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-10-26 21:54 +0100
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-10-26 20:45 -0500
    Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2011-10-27 16:31 -0700
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-10-27 17:02 -0700
  Re: Any experience on teaching Perl programmers Java Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-10-27 17:07 -0700

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