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Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7

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From	Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net>
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Subject	Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7
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Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:24:46 -0400, /Eric Sosman/:

>      Quoth the Java SE 6 Javadoc: "A throwable [sic] contains a
> snapshot of the execution stack of its thread at the time it was
> created."  That is, the Javadoc promises that a Throwable carries
> a stack trace.  A Throwable with no stack trace breaches the
> promise, and since that promise was still in force as of 1.6 I
> deduce that there's no such thing as a stackless Throwable in that
> version, or that it's a bug if there is.

You may be right, but I've read in the Javadoc for 
java.util.logging.Logger, for example 
<http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/logging/Logger.html>:

| For the methods that do not take an explicit source name and
| method name, the Logging framework will make a "best effort" to
| determine which class and method called into the logging method.
| However, it is important to realize that this automatically
| inferred information may only be approximate (or may even be
| quite wrong!). Virtual machines are allowed to do extensive
| optimizations when JITing and may entirely remove stack frames,
| making it impossible to reliably locate the calling class and
| method.

So it seems stack trace information is not guaranteed to be 
available to user code.  This detail may be given somewhere in the 
language or VM specifications.

-- 
Stanimir

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Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-09-30 15:57 +0200
  Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2011-10-01 13:27 +0300
    Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-01 13:22 +0200
      Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-01 09:10 -0700
        Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2011-10-01 20:31 +0300
        Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-01 20:02 +0200
          Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-01 12:21 -0700
            Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-01 22:04 +0200
              Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-10-01 16:24 -0400
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-01 23:14 +0200
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-10-01 17:28 -0400
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-10-01 23:45 +0000
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2011-10-02 00:58 +0300
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-02 02:04 +0200
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-01 20:06 -0700
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2011-10-02 13:14 +0300
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-10-02 08:37 -0700
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-02 20:26 +0200
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-10-02 17:51 -0400
                Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-03 01:32 +0200
    Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2011-10-01 20:19 +0300
      Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-10-01 20:04 +0200
        Re: Avoid creating a stacktrace prior to JDK 1.7 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2011-10-01 21:15 +0300

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