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Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7

From supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7
Date 2011-08-25 15:50 -0400
Organization supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations
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On 25/08/2011 12:56 PM, Lew wrote:
> Roedy Green wrote:
>> For people who type for a living, DSK is something to look into.
>>
>> for an intro, see http://mindprod.com/ggloss/dsk.html
>
> Something to look into and perhaps to reject if based on purely pragmatic
> grounds.  No yet proven ergonomic advantage exists for the Dvorak layout.
> The fact that more left-hand-only words exist for QWERTY is actually an
> advantage to QWERTY nowadays, given the standard position of the cursor
> and numeric keys and the near-universal placement of the mouse to the
> right of the keyboard.

I'd think a much more important factor is that pretty much nobody's 
productivity is strongly affected by typing speed anymore. Back when 
people did huge amounts of manual data entry and typists rattled off the 
boss's presentations for him, taking dictation, maybe. Nowadays? Check 
the Java want ads. Even this verbose language's want ads mention JDBC, 
SQL, and other acronymic areas of knowledge required but don't mention 
typing speed, unlike ads for typists forty years ago.

The reason is pretty clear: rote data entry and dictation are something 
machines do now, with humans merely proofreading and making the odd 
correction to the scanos; meanwhile, typing, whether it's a blog post or 
a computer program, tends to be only a small percentage of the work done 
-- *thinking* is by far larger, and some amount of error-checking (such 
as compiling, testing, and debugging code, or proofreading prose). The 
limiting factor on productivity for Java programmers, in particular, is 
likely to be how fast they can come up with what the next line of code 
should be, rather than how fast they can actually type it in once 
they've thought of it.

And then there are alternative JVM languages like Scala and Clojure that 
potentially cut the amount to be typed in by half or more.

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Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-21 23:56 -0700
  Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-21 23:58 -0700
    Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-08-22 08:37 -0700
      Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-22 08:56 -0700
        Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? Peter Duniho <NpOeStPeAdM@NnOwSlPiAnMk.com> - 2011-08-22 09:15 -0700
          Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-22 10:02 -0700
            Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? markspace <-@.> - 2011-08-22 10:50 -0700
            Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-08-23 19:03 -0400
        Re: Why does Eclipse find error in simple "public static void main( String[] args) { } instruction? markspace <-@.> - 2011-08-22 10:48 -0700
  Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-22 07:34 -0700
  Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 markspace <-@.> - 2011-08-22 10:51 -0700
    Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-22 18:18 +0000
    Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-22 11:22 -0700
      Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-22 12:40 -0700
      Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-23 09:04 -0700
        Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-23 09:10 -0700
    Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-23 08:08 -0700
      Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Silvio <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-08-23 17:22 +0200
        Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 09:02 -0700
          Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Silvio <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-08-23 22:57 +0200
            Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 18:03 -0700
              Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Silvio <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-08-24 09:09 +0200
                Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-25 07:00 -0700
                Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-25 09:56 -0700
                Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations <supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com> - 2011-08-25 15:50 -0400
                Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-25 12:55 -0700
                Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Silvio <silvio@moc.com> - 2011-08-27 00:48 +0200
        Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-25 06:54 -0700
  Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-23 09:43 -0700
    Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-09-02 08:24 -0700
      Re: Locale.getDefault bug in JDK 1.7 Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2011-09-02 11:34 -0400

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