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Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come?

From	Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come?
Date	2011-08-09 04:16 +0200
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Eric Sosman schrieb:
>      Perhaps if you'd explain your use case in more detail
> someone will have a suggestion you may find helpful.

I have only referted to the meta use case in my post.
The software refactoring use case, is replacing a synchronized
Vector by an unsychronized ArrayList in regions where no synchronization 
is necessary.

This meta use case could even have IDE support. For example
IntelliJ has IDE support for the detection of unnessary
use of StringBuffer and suggests the class StringBuilder.

Similarly an IDE could suggest ArrayList in certain places
where Vector is used. But it will not succeeded in such
cases where I did use setSize on my Vector.

I actually do use setSize for a kind of sparse Vector.
Sparse in the sense that my Vector will have a couple
of holes represented by null value elements. Which
is eventually abuse of the term "sparse", but the use
case is there.

The missing thought in the reponse is the design goal
of ArrayList. They are explicitly advertised in the
class comment as unsynchronized version of Vector. It
is brainless not to honor such a design goal in a response.

On the other hand it is very clever to have the possibility
of turning initial design goals into requests for
enhancement. Imagine the following situation:

    You go into a restaurant and order pizza,
    you get your pizza without cheese, you
    ask the waiter what is wrong, and the waiter
    says, oh this cannot be changed, cheese has
    to be ordered separately.

Brainless are we, who accept this.

Best Regards

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setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 00:47 +0200
  Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Knute Johnson <september@knutejohnson.com> - 2011-08-08 16:53 -0700
    Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 02:30 +0200
  Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-08-08 20:50 -0400
  Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-08-08 21:09 -0400
    Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 04:16 +0200
      Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-08 21:39 -0500
        Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 09:33 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 09:42 +0200
        Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-09 07:56 +0000
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 11:18 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-09 10:36 -0500
            Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 18:30 +0200
              Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-09 16:30 -0500
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 00:31 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-09 20:36 -0500
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 09:04 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-10 08:50 +0000
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-10 18:16 -0500
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 01:55 +0200
      Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-08-09 01:33 -0700
        Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 11:16 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 11:32 +0200
            Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-09 11:35 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-08-09 04:00 -0700
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-08-09 20:11 -0400
      Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-08-10 10:21 +0200
        Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-10 09:14 +0000
        Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 12:29 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-08-10 19:27 +0200
            Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 20:22 +0200
              Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 20:37 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-10 18:22 -0500
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 01:52 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-08-10 21:43 -0500
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 14:19 +0200
              Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-10 22:23 +0000
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 01:47 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-11 00:23 +0000
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 09:19 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-08-12 15:06 +0000
  Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-09 09:58 -0700
    Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-08-09 10:25 -0700
      Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-08-09 22:38 +0100
        Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 00:36 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-09 15:55 -0700
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Knute Johnson <september@knutejohnson.com> - 2011-08-09 16:03 -0700
            Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 09:18 +0200
              Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Mayeul <mayeul.marguet@free.fr> - 2011-08-10 11:26 +0200
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 12:35 +0200
              Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-08-10 09:33 -0700
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-10 20:22 +0200
          Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-08-09 22:13 -0700
            Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 02:01 +0200
              Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-08-10 18:42 -0700
                Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2011-08-11 14:21 +0200
    Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-08-09 20:09 -0400
  Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-08-09 16:02 -0700
    Re: setSize ArrayList, when will it come? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-08-09 20:13 -0400

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