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Re: Basic prisoner's dilemma?

From Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Basic prisoner's dilemma?
Date 2011-04-18 18:37 -0400
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ODaniele Futtorovic wrote:
> Lew allegedly wrote:
>> - "What is the terminating condition of the game?"

> There must be none. If you're ever in a prisoner's dilemma kind of
> situation, and know that there are only a limited number of passes left,
> there is only one viable strategy: betray.

Thank you for those informative answers, but the last one leaves me wondering 
still about the terminating condition of the game.  Obviously if there's a 
payout (3/3, 5/0, 1/1), there must be an ending.  What you've described is 
that the players cannot know when that ending will occur, but surely it must 
still eventually occur?

So one of the terminating conditions, or attributes of those conditions, is 
player ignorance.  What are the rest?

This time I don't ask that you feel obligated to answer this question - I will 
certainly do the research.  I am deeply grateful that you answered the other 
questions - your answers were focused and helpful.  But I had asked them 
primarily to indicate the kinds of questions one might ask, whatever their 
answers, and like the one I ask in this post, answers lead in turn to even 
more questions.

For example, and I just offer it as an example and not something one is 
required to answer just now, what is the effect of changing the payouts?  What 
if partial information were leaked to the prisoner's about release times, but 
the prisoner has to guess how valid that information is?  What if the 
information about the other prisoner's responses is distorted, as happens in 
real-life prisoner situations?

And I remain curious about game choices other than COOPERATE or BETRAY.

I plan to read up on all this now that the forum has sparked my interest.

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
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