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| From | Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: How to develop without an IDE? |
| Date | 2012-04-29 20:35 -0700 |
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:34:24 -0400, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
wrote:
>On 4/25/2012 12:13 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:10:46 -0400, Arne Vajhøj<arne@vajhoej.dk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> But it is only 1/3 of the problem that is the actual lack
>>> of Ant skills - the 2/3 of the problem is the attitude.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> I am highly-resistant to flavour of the<time period>.
>
>Ant has been widely used for over a decade!
I was discussing the general case. I have seen too many cases of
"This is the greatest tool since ..." and when I try it, it fails on
very simple cases of mine.
>> If I have
>> something that is working well for me, I am unlikely to change short
>> of a compelling reason.
>
>You need to have the skills in demand. If you want to work in
>the business - if you are coding as a hobby or part of an entirely
>different profession, then it may not matter much.
True, but I am not going to drop everything because something
else comes out.
>> If there is good reason, I will try new
>> things. There is so much noise though of so many tools that I
>> generally need a reason before proceeding, and I am very likely to
>> drop something cold if it turns into a time-waster.
>
>There may be a lot of noise.
"may"?
>But if you actually read some of it you would find out that
>ant is used by about 50% of Java projects for builds (Maven
>takes the majority of the rest).
Fine. I am not coding in Java anymore, because I found that it
did not match what I needed. I do like the discussions such as this
one.
>That is fact.
I am not challenging it. I still decide what I use though.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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