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Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API

Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2013-01-27 19:57 -0800
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Subject Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API
From Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru>

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> Actually, I disagree with both claims, but regardless, even if you
> prefer the first version, I fail to see the advantage in your way of
> doing it compared to just doing this:
When I read the code which logs something, what I usually need to know, is what information is logged here and which level at.  I may need to know this because I'm doing code review and I want to make sure that proper information is logged at proper levels.  Also I may need this during issue investigation because I don't see something in the log that logically should be there and I want to make sure that I didn't forget to put logging in the code.  I usually don't care about exact words and commas in the log message.  Only what information is logged and which level at.

The real cases when I need to know log message literally, are:
1. I want to review all log message to make sure they obey our policy regarding style, formatting and levels.
2. I found something in the log and I need to find place in code where it was logged.

The later two things are hard to do when log messages are spread among the code and are written in the form of concatenations.  Especially hard is to find in the code log messages that was taken from log file if you don't know exactly which parts of the message are hardcoded and which parts were substituted from variables.

Anyway, the idea of ultralog was to offer garbage-free yet clear syntax, not syntax that is clearer than even non garbage-free ones.

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ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-26 22:05 -0800
  Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-01-27 10:39 -0800
    Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API vladimirow@mail.ru - 2013-01-27 11:03 -0800
      Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-01-27 20:48 +0100
        Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-27 20:15 -0800
      Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2013-01-27 13:51 -0600
        Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-27 19:57 -0800
  Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-01-28 05:23 -0400
    Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-28 01:32 -0800
      Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-01-28 05:37 -0400
        Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-28 02:06 -0800
      Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-28 13:49 -0800
        Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-29 06:04 -0800
          Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-29 10:19 -0800
          Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2013-01-29 13:10 -0600
            Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-29 11:34 -0800
              Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-29 20:16 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-29 19:57 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-29 22:56 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-29 23:19 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-01-30 08:23 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-01-30 16:54 +0000
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-30 13:33 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API tisue@cs.nwu.edu (Seth Tisue) - 2013-01-30 16:37 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API tisue@cs.nwu.edu (Seth Tisue) - 2013-01-30 16:33 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-30 21:50 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-01-31 10:38 +0000
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API T®oll <spooksRus@derbyshire-crania.org> - 2013-01-31 12:30 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API T®oll <spooksRus@derbyshire-crania.org> - 2013-01-31 12:30 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-01-31 17:55 +0000
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-01-31 10:48 +0000
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API T®oll <spooksRus@derbyshire-crania.org> - 2013-01-31 12:32 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-01-31 17:58 +0000
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-31 21:49 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-30 21:47 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-30 21:14 -0800
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-30 21:43 -0500
                Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-30 21:11 -0800
  Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API Mikhail Vladimirov <vladimirow@mail.ru> - 2013-01-30 13:43 -0800

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