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Re: Spring/hibernate and JDBC

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On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, markspace wrote:

> On 7/9/2011 2:56 PM, Jack wrote:
>
>> With spring and hibernate so popular now, is there anybody still only 
>> use JDBC to write database application code? Thanks.
>
> I'm sure someone is, but yes I assume that JPA & Hibernate and 
> dependency injection frameworks like Spring and JSF have become the 
> norm.

This has also been my impression. On my current project, we do still write 
raw SQL using JDBC on occasion, but only because we need to do some sort 
of mad query that can't be done with our persistence provider. For 
instance, we have a query that runs every hour to update our list of 
top-selling products, which joins together all sorts of tables and inserts 
the result directly into a table. I don't think there's any way to do that 
(up to and including inserting from the select) with JPA.

Now, having said that, it appears that somebody doesn't see raw JDBC as 
being limited to corner cases, because they've steadily been adding 
features to it. Features i find quite baffling. Here's what's coming in 
JDK 7 (skip over the try-with-resources stuff, which is great, but not 
baffling):

http://download.java.net/jdk7/docs/technotes/guides/jdbc/jdbc_41.html

Who is the target market for this RowSetFactory stuff? In fact, who is the 
target market for the existing RowSets? We have CachedRowSet, 
FilteredRowSet, JoinRowSet, JdbcRowSet (!), and WebRowSet - none of which 
i have ever seen used or advocated. Who is using these, and what for?

The javadoc for JdbcRowSet says:

  A wrapper around a ResultSet object that makes it possible to use the
  result set as a JavaBeansTM component. Thus, a JdbcRowSet object can be
  one of the Beans that a tool makes available for composing an
  application.

Waitwhat? Tools composing applications out of JavaBeans? Wasn't that idea 
dead in, like, 1998? What the hell is going on here? Is there some mad 
backwater Lost World of Java development where people are actually 
building apps by dragging icons around in tools?

tom

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