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Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized

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On 12/4/11 12:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 12/4/2011 4:42 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 20:05:24 -0800, Roedy Green wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:44:48 -0500, Eric Sosman
>>> <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
>>> someone who said :
>>>
>>>> What is the big-Oh complexity of Collections.sort(List<String>)
>>>> on an already-sorted list?
>>>
>>> IIRC QuickSort goes a bit bananas if the file is already sorted. ISTR
>>> some sort doing some random swaps at the start to make sure that does
>>> not happen. It does do a check first if things are in order.
>>>
>> I'm a little wary of quicksort's claim of superior speed in every
>> situation.
>
> I would be a lot wary of that claim if I ever saw it made. As pointed
> out at the start of its Wikiedia article, it "on average, makes O(nlog
> n) (big O notation) comparisons to sort n items. In the worst case, it
> makes O(n2) comparisons, though this behavior is rare. Quicksort is
> often faster in practice than other O(nlog n) algorithms"
>
> The key words here are "on average" and "often faster". To test those
> claims, it would be necessary to do many runs, in many different
> situations, with different inputs.
>
> However, I think the java.util developers made the right call in
> deciding not to use it. Given that there are very effective algorithms
> that are truly O(n log(n)), not just on average, why not use one of them?
>
> Patricia
I remember reading a paper online a while back which showed that it was 
possible to create a comparison specifically designed to thwart Quick 
Sort.  Not sure why anyone would want to do that in a real life 
situation, but the paper showed that it could cause common QS 
implementations to always approach n^2.

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Verifying a list is alphabetized laredotornado <laredotornado@zipmail.com> - 2011-11-30 07:52 -0800
  Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2011-11-30 08:05 -0800
    Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-30 11:18 -0800
    Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 19:54 -0500
      Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-12-03 07:44 -0500
        Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-12-03 09:02 -0500
        Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-03 20:05 -0800
          Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-03 22:13 -0800
            Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-04 21:47 +0000
          Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-04 12:42 +0000
            Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-12-04 12:18 -0800
              Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-12-04 13:17 -0800
                Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-12-04 15:32 -0800
                Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized markspace <-@.> - 2011-12-04 15:59 -0800
                Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-12-04 16:14 -0800
                Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized markspace <-@.> - 2011-12-04 17:12 -0800
                Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-12-04 21:17 -0500
            Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-04 22:11 +0000
              Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-04 23:41 +0000
              Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-12 01:39 -0800
          Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-12-04 08:47 -0500
          Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-04 21:34 -0800
  Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-11-30 12:52 -0800
    Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized laredotornado <laredotornado@zipmail.com> - 2011-12-01 06:43 -0800
  Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-11-30 13:16 -0800
  Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-02 01:43 -0800
    Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-12-02 05:58 -0800
      Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 19:55 -0500
      Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-03 02:54 -0800
        Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-12-03 06:17 -0800
    Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-03 03:10 -0800
  Re: Verifying a list is alphabetized Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 19:52 -0500

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