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Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21

From Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21
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Date 2013-04-21 16:06 -0300

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On 04/21/2013 03:31 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 4/21/2013 9:20 AM, Knute Johnson wrote:
>> I haven't followed this thread closely enough to really understand the
>> controversy.  But I like experiments.  And I never get to write anything
>> in C any more.
>
> I'm just too lazy to do this sort of thing.  I applaud those of you who
> are able to go above and beyond all reasonable efforts helping people. I
> think the OP has just got a bee up his butt about the documentation and
> won't stop to consider he may be reading it wrong.  Your experiments
> match what I assumed to be the case.
>
>  > ProcessBuilder pb = new ProcessBuilder("test.exe","hello world");
>> argc=2
>
>  > ProcessBuilder pb = new ProcessBuilder("test.exe","hello","world");
>> argc=3
>
> Yup, that's what I thought.  I'm really uncertain what the heck the OP
> is on about.
>
>
I think the points that Martin and Chris made is that for 
system-specific access of this nature you don't even make too many 
assumptions at all. You just do the experimentation that they described, 
for the specific OS and program in question.

I can see why the guys work up a problem, it's fun, I've done it myself. 
I do it when I don't actually know for a fact, so I code up a simple 
app, in whatever. I'm the first one to admit, I often don't know off the 
top of my head, which is why I am empirical. :-)

I'm impressed with the guys that master a platform or language so well 
that they are Knuthian, no need to run code, they know their statements 
are correct. I can't do that myself, just in the last 12 months I've had 
to deal with maybe 8-10 different programming languages, several dozen 
new systems and APIs, and several dozen specifications. I have no idea 
what the guys do that understand languages or OS systems programming or 
concurrency like mother's milk come from, but they aren't EAI 
consultants. :-)

AHS

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exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-04-16 15:48 -0700
  Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-04-16 16:48 -0700
  Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-20 13:00 +0300
  Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-04-20 15:13 +0200
    Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-20 19:07 +0300
      Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-04-20 09:24 -0700
        Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-20 19:34 +0300
          Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-04-20 11:01 -0700
            Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 00:25 +0300
          Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-04-20 22:03 +0200
            Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 00:29 +0300
              Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-20 21:56 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 08:31 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-21 11:08 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-04-21 13:43 -0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 23:12 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-21 21:17 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-04-27 22:49 -0400
              Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-04-20 15:03 -0700
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 08:26 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-04-21 14:30 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2013-04-21 09:20 -0700
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-04-21 11:31 -0700
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-04-21 16:06 -0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-21 19:47 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-21 23:01 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 23:29 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 23:45 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-21 21:38 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Knute Johnson <nospam@knutejohnson.com> - 2013-04-21 18:49 -0700
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 09:36 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-22 10:39 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-04-22 07:43 -0700
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-22 19:33 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-23 07:30 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-22 21:07 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 23:28 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-23 21:05 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-24 11:22 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-04-24 20:22 +0000
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2013-04-24 11:24 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 23:23 +0300
            Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 00:40 +0300
              Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-23 10:48 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2013-04-23 13:31 +0300
                <? extends String> (was: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21) Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-23 14:55 +0100
                Re: <? extends String> lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-23 16:37 +0100
                Re: <? extends String> Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-04-23 08:50 -0700
                Re: <? extends String> lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-23 17:30 +0100
                Re: <? extends String> Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-04-23 09:58 -0700
                Re: <? extends String> Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2013-04-23 21:06 +0300
                Re: <? extends String> lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-23 19:33 +0100
                Re: <? extends String> Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2013-04-23 12:26 -0700
                Re: <? extends String> lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-24 09:08 +0100
                Re: <? extends String> Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-04-23 16:28 -0300
                Re: <? extends String> (was: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 14:12 -0700
                Re: <? extends String> Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-23 23:22 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-23 19:56 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 23:31 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-23 23:39 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-24 09:29 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-24 10:26 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-24 13:11 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-24 22:24 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 11:49 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-25 10:19 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-04-25 09:02 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 11:47 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-25 09:50 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-25 10:07 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-04-27 08:44 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-26 20:17 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Steven Simpson <ss@domain.invalid> - 2013-04-27 09:22 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-27 12:39 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-23 23:17 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-04-23 17:32 -0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-24 10:39 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-04-25 09:02 +0100
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 11:59 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-04-25 18:38 -0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-28 10:57 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-04-27 22:35 -0400
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-04-28 09:23 +0300
                Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-04-28 09:52 -0400
  Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2013-04-20 17:52 +0300
    Re: exec problem is JDK 1.7.0_21 Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-04-27 22:31 -0400

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