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Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet.

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Ok, I see, more control over what is put on
cleaner threads seems to be useful. The finalize()
mark interface, is called even when not needed,

even when the user did call close(). Ok, I agree
a different design, where close() would dequeue
the finalizer from cleaner thread is indeed better...

Oki Doki

So when you call close(), in future releases of
the JDK. You will help the runtime, in that you
keep finalizer queues small, and distribute work

over time, without resulting in some bulk load,
when large finalizer queues are emptied. So I
guess one more close() doesn't hurt!

On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 4:40:30 PM UTC+1, burs...@gmail.com wrote:
> close() seems to be anyway a can of worms.
> 
> "The current issue is: even with programmers do call 
> close() after using FileInputStream, its finalize() 
> method will still be called. In other words, still 
> get the side effect of the FinalReference being 
> registered at FileInputStream allocation time, 
> and also reference processing to reclaim the 
> FinalReference during GC (any GC solution has 
> to deal with this)."
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-8562
> 
> You find finalizer based design in the JRE
> at many places. Also JarFile and JarEntry use
> it. I wonder how this all is handled in the
> future, since finalizer() is deprecated in
> 
> JDK 9, and some alternatives are suggested.
> Quite confusing, difficult to say whether 
> these are first sings of a general bit rot 
> of Java, or whether something viable results.
> 
> Ha Ha
> 
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 4:52:01 PM UTC+1, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
> > In my application there exists an entity that is Closeable.
> > It is kept in some class, and other parts of my application
> > request a ref to the entity and do actions on it, then drop
> > their ref, leaving the entity intact.
> > 
> > Everything runs fine, except eclipse warns me about spots
> > where the entity is requested, used, and then dropped.
> > Eclipse thinks it might need to be close()d.
> > 
> > Apart from ignoring the warning per eclipse settings or
> > adding @SuppressWarnings, is there maybe a way to tell
> > the compiler that a certain ref is not meant to be close()d?
> > Letting it know that - despite the entity's ultimate fate of
> > being eventually closed - this is not yet the time&place for it?

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it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-02-27 15:51 +0000
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-27 08:48 -0800
    Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-02-27 19:03 +0000
      Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-27 11:09 -0800
        Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-02-28 12:20 +0000
          Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 06:19 -0800
            Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 06:52 -0800
              Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 08:24 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 08:34 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 09:00 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 11:12 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 11:26 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 11:33 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 11:37 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 11:41 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 11:48 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 12:51 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-03-01 08:47 +0000
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-03-01 09:31 +0000
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2019-03-03 02:01 +0100
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-03-04 09:38 +0000
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2019-03-04 12:26 +0100
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-03-05 14:34 +0000
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-03-05 07:34 -0800
                Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2019-03-04 13:59 -0500
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2019-02-28 08:30 +0100
    Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-02-28 19:10 +0000
      Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 11:34 -0800
      Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2019-02-28 22:24 +0100
        Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2019-02-28 23:25 +0100
          Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2019-03-01 09:43 +0000
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 12:11 -0800
    Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 13:49 -0800
      Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 13:52 -0800
        Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 13:59 -0800
          Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-02-28 16:17 -0800
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 12:26 -0800
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-28 13:44 -0800
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-03-01 07:40 -0800
    Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. bursejan@gmail.com - 2019-03-01 08:34 -0800
  Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-03-11 06:27 -0700
    Re: it's Closeable, but I don't want to close() it yet. Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2019-03-11 07:24 -0700

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