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Re: number and words

From Tom McGlynn <taqmcg@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: number and words
Date 2012-05-03 15:32 -0700
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On May 3, 5:28 pm, Roedy Green <see_webs...@mindprod.com.invalid>
wrote:
> On Thu, 3 May 2012 15:12:25 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
> <mar...@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
> someone who said :
>
> >or, as a simpler example 21 = "twenty one" or "ein und zwanzig", but it
> >wasn't all that long ago that English also used the German spoken number
> >order, as in "a maid of just one and twenty summers"
>
> not all that long ago...
>
> A. E. Housman (1859 1936).  A Shropshire Lad.  1896.
>
>
Naively, I'd have suggested that formal poetry may not be the best
place to see what common usage was.  However Google's Ngram viewer
suggests that it is only after the world wars that twenty one became
more common than one and twenty.  (Same for one and thirty versus
thirty one).  This shift may really be quite recent.

    Regards,
    Tom McGlynn

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number and words Daniel <daniel.chmielewski@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 13:55 -0700
  Re: number and words Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-02 17:01 -0400
  Re: number and words Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-02 14:23 -0700
    Re: number and words Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 16:13 -0700
      Re: number and words Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-02 19:19 -0400
        Re: number and words Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-02 20:05 -0700
      Re: number and words Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-05-02 18:41 -0500
        Re: number and words Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-02 20:06 -0700
          Re: number and words Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-05-03 00:06 -0500
            Re: number and words Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-03 09:15 -0700
              Re: number and words Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-05-03 12:00 -0500
                Re: number and words Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-03 13:26 -0700
      Re: number and words RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2012-05-03 10:03 +0100
        Re: number and words Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-03 06:15 -0300
        Re: number and words Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 14:08 -0700
          Re: number and words glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-05-04 05:49 +0000
            Re: number and words Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-04 06:46 -0700
              Re: number and words glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-05-04 19:41 +0000
      Re: number and words Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-03 14:14 -0700
    Re: number and words Daniel <daniel.chmielewski@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 16:20 -0700
      Re: number and words Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-05-03 15:12 +0000
        Re: number and words Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-03 14:28 -0700
          Re: number and words Tom McGlynn <taqmcg@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 15:32 -0700

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