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Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML??

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  To: Robert Klemme
From: "Eric Sosman" <eric.sosman@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this>

  To: Robert Klemme
From: Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid>

On 7/28/2012 12:36 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On 27.07.2012 23:11, David Lamb wrote:
>
>> I taught introductory programming for several years in several
>> languages. You don't need to get as complex as backtracking. The natural
>> places to teach recursion to introductory students are with binary tree
>> search and quicksort, both of which can be taught in the first or second
>> 1-semester course.
>
> Right.  Although I'd consider Quicksort too complex as an introduction
> to recursion as the algorithms workings are not so easy to grasp and
> would distract from the concept of recursion.  Tree search seems to be
> the most appropriate to me.  Still, introducing recursion as a concept
> in programming does not belong into class reference documentation.  This
> is something for a tutorial or other introductory material.

     Tree *traversal* is a good recursion example, but I can't
think of a good a priori reason to *search* recursively in an ordinary ordered 
tree.  Maybe in a different sort of tree where you sometimes pursue multiple 
branches instead of choosing just one ...  But that seems more complicated than 
Quicksort.

--
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid

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Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-nwi-this> - 2012-07-27 19:42 +0000
  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-nwi-this> - 2012-07-27 19:42 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this> - 2012-07-28 20:40 +0000
      Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this> - 2012-07-28 20:40 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "markspace" <markspace@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this> - 2012-07-28 20:40 +0000
  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "David Lamb" <david.lamb@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this> - 2012-07-28 20:40 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this> - 2012-07-28 20:40 +0000
      Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Eric Sosman" <eric.sosman@1:261/38.remove-5bm-this> - 2012-07-29 18:16 +0000
      Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-dpk-this> - 2012-07-31 18:02 +0000

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