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Re: Newbie needing advice

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On 5/3/2012 12:43 PM, Cainito wrote:
> On May 3, 12:19 pm, markspace<-@.>  wrote:
>> On 5/3/2012 8:55 AM, zack ballard wrote:
>>> So, I am a complete newb when it comes to programming and am wanting
>>> to learn.
>>
>> My advice: go to school.
>>
>> You aren't going to get any serious work, or learning, done trying to
>> learn on your.  Learning on own is going to be difficult, and won't be
>> taken seriously by an employer.
>>
>> If a university is out of the question, consider a junior college or
>> trade school.  If I personally had to hire someone, I'd consider hiring
>> someone with a 2 year degree or the first 2 years of college coursework
>> at a junior college before I'd hire someone who was self-taught.  If you
>> don't have a related degree (math, science, etc.) then "I learned it
>> myself" is going to be a non-starter; I simply wouldn't hire anyone with
>> no degree at all.
>>
>> That said, sure, Java is an acceptable language to start learning.  It's
>> practical and used in the workplace, as well as being not too baroque
>> for a new student.  Other acceptable choices might be C#, Ruby, Python,
>> C, or probably a few more I'm unaware of.
>
> Starting a 2 year program this fall with plans (just plans, not sure
> how funds/time will be 2 years from now) to get a bach later.  Is a 2
> year degree without the 4 year degree still good enough to get good
> work and be considered for a job?  I know the 4 year would be better,
> but would a 2 year still get me the job (and money)?  How much is a 4
> year degree valued over a 2 year?  Is it extreme or just slightly
> better?

What geographical location? What type of job? When?

Regarding when then as a general rule in good economic times with
high demand for developers employers are less picky about education
while in bad times with low demand they can be more picky. We know
the economics of today but it is difficult to predict how it will be
in 2 or 4 years.

You can try and study salary statistics for 2yr/bachelor/master
at some salary site and do the math.

I believe that more education is better, so you should go for
bachelor preferably even a master.

But if circumstances does not allow it them 2 years are
certainly better than nothing.

Arne

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Newbie needing advice zack ballard <theznc@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 08:55 -0700
  Re: Newbie needing advice Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 12:18 -0400
    Re: Newbie needing advice Cainito <theznc@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 09:27 -0700
      Re: Newbie needing advice Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 13:17 -0400
  Re: Newbie needing advice markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-03 09:19 -0700
    Re: Newbie needing advice Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 12:22 -0400
    Re: Newbie needing advice Cainito <theznc@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 09:43 -0700
      Re: Newbie needing advice Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 13:24 -0400
      Re: Newbie needing advice markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-03 11:02 -0700
        Re: Newbie needing advice Cainito <theznc@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 13:28 -0700
        Re: Newbie needing advice Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-03 13:30 -0700
    Re: Newbie needing advice Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-03 20:02 -0300
  Re: Newbie needing advice Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-05-03 13:02 -0400
    Re: Newbie needing advice Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-05-03 13:23 -0400
    Re: Newbie needing advice Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-05-08 10:49 -0400
      Re: Newbie needing advice Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-10 19:26 -0700
        Re: Newbie needing advice Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-05-11 11:28 -0400
  Re: Newbie needing advice Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-03 14:01 -0700
  Re: Newbie needing advice Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 15:03 -0700

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