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Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes

Date 2011-11-20 17:18 -0500
From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes
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On 11/20/2011 5:04 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> On 11/20/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
> ...
>> Put it this way: If I had told sara "An ArrayList contains
>> C-style pointers to the objects it holds," would I have been
>> telling the truth?
>>
>
> No, but if you had said "An ArrayList contains pointers to the objects
> it holds." you would have been telling the exact truth.

Yes.

> The baggage that C added to pointers was an unfortunate aberration, not
> something that should ever be considered to be the default definition of
> "pointer".

C/C++ pointers has certainly caused a lot of problems over the
years.

But the languages would not have been the same without them. And
I even doubt that they would have been as popular.

C and C++ was not chosen because alternatives without
"do anything you want pointers" did not exist.

Arne

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Size of an arraylist in bytes sara <sarasara82@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 13:01 -0800
  Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-20 13:05 -0800
    Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes sara <sarasara82@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 13:11 -0800
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-20 21:58 +0000
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-20 14:08 -0800
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-11-20 14:50 -0800
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-20 18:06 -0500
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 20:28 -0800
  Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-20 16:30 -0500
    Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes sara <sarasara82@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 13:35 -0800
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-20 17:19 -0500
    Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-20 16:58 -0500
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-11-20 14:04 -0800
        Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-20 17:18 -0500
          Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2011-11-20 14:48 -0800
            Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-25 22:12 -0500
      Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 20:44 -0800
        Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-25 22:16 -0500
          Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 20:15 -0800
  Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-20 22:25 -0800
    Re: Size of an arraylist in bytes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-25 22:11 -0500

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