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O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution

Started byRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
First post2012-01-24 15:17 -0800
Last post2012-01-30 20:41 -0800
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  O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-24 15:17 -0800
    Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-01-24 20:12 -0400
    Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Paul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-25 02:17 -0800
    Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Nigel Wade <nmw@le.ac.uk> - 2012-01-25 11:57 +0000
      Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-25 11:10 -0800
    Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-25 13:28 -0800
      Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-01-25 15:21 -0800
        Re: O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-01-30 20:41 -0800

#1529 — O.T. Puzzle about hit distribution

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-01-24 15:17 -0800
SubjectO.T. Puzzle about hit distribution
Message-ID<9heuh7h2msinuqg1jmuggfltnrrfnb8vqd@4ax.com>
I graphed the hits on my home page and discovered a steady reliable
pattern.  The hits come in two big peaks, one a 6 AM and one at 3PM
PST with one smaller one at 11:15 AM.  This pattern repeats on
weekdays and weekends. 

I expected some sort of bell shaped curve.  I have been trying to find
a hypothesis that would explain this.  I thought perhaps the 6AM spike
might be people in the eastern time zone coming into work and just
checking out the site. But if that were true, you would see a similar
spike for the other time zones.  

If it is some sort of DOS attack, it seems pretty half-hearted.

I don't really need to know this.  It just puzzles me.  If it bugs me
enough perhaps analysing the IPs of individual hits might explain what
is happening.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
One of the most useful comments you can put in a program is 
"If you change this, remember to change ?XXX? too".
 

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#1530

FromArved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca>
Date2012-01-24 20:12 -0400
Message-ID<pNHTq.6680$5r2.624@newsfe11.iad>
In reply to#1529
On 12-01-24 07:17 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> I graphed the hits on my home page and discovered a steady reliable
> pattern.  The hits come in two big peaks, one a 6 AM and one at 3PM
> PST with one smaller one at 11:15 AM.  This pattern repeats on
> weekdays and weekends. 
[ SNIP ]

You've just now sussed out the daily habits of your fan.

AHS
-- 
...wherever the people are well informed they can be trusted with their
own government...
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1789

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#1531

FromPaul Cager <paul.cager@googlemail.com>
Date2012-01-25 02:17 -0800
Message-ID<09510520-3ed1-4381-8cf3-1b2f48276ca4@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#1529
On Jan 24, 11:17 pm, Roedy Green <see_webs...@mindprod.com.invalid>
wrote:
> I graphed the hits on my home page and discovered a steady reliable
> pattern.  The hits come in two big peaks, one a 6 AM and one at 3PM
> PST with one smaller one at 11:15 AM.  This pattern repeats on
> weekdays and weekends.

Maybe someone mirroring your site (using wget or similar)? Without
looking at the IPs or user-agents it's difficult to guess.

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#1532

FromNigel Wade <nmw@le.ac.uk>
Date2012-01-25 11:57 +0000
Message-ID<9oa90rFprtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1529
On 24/01/12 23:17, Roedy Green wrote:
> I graphed the hits on my home page and discovered a steady reliable
> pattern.  The hits come in two big peaks, one a 6 AM and one at 3PM
> PST with one smaller one at 11:15 AM.  This pattern repeats on
> weekdays and weekends.
>
> I expected some sort of bell shaped curve.  I have been trying to find
> a hypothesis that would explain this.  I thought perhaps the 6AM spike
> might be people in the eastern time zone coming into work and just
> checking out the site. But if that were true, you would see a similar
> spike for the other time zones.
>
> If it is some sort of DOS attack, it seems pretty half-hearted.
>
> I don't really need to know this.  It just puzzles me.  If it bugs me
> enough perhaps analysing the IPs of individual hits might explain what
> is happening.

Webcrawlers. Do the IPs belong to search engines?

-- 
Nigel Wade

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#1534

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-01-25 11:10 -0800
Message-ID<lak0i711nhrgdqmucb1oq3e9g7pik8vqd2@4ax.com>
In reply to#1532
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:57:03 +0000, Nigel Wade <nmw@le.ac.uk> wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>Webcrawlers. Do the IPs belong to search engines?

I don't have alist of the ips.  There is another anomaly.  Usually
every December traffic drops off. This year it started to climb and
now it is about triple what it was. I often get spikes, e.g. from
slashdot or some right wing group getting upset about one of my
essays, but not a steady climb like this. I use a sitemap, so there is
no reason a search engine (presuming they use  the site map) should
poll that page more than once a day. Surely there can't be 3000+
spider  hits a day on that one page.

I guess I will have to wait until I run JSP on the site and then can
track the IPs and see if I can see some pattern.

I notice google often gives me my own site when I go looking for
information.  Part of what is going on is they may be ranking me
higher. But that still leaves the mystery of the trident.
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
One of the most useful comments you can put in a program is 
"If you change this, remember to change ?XXX? too".
 

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#1535

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-01-25 13:28 -0800
Message-ID<avs0i7plgc375npd9ajcs2lsfepi0p0cui@4ax.com>
In reply to#1529
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:17:08 -0800, Roedy Green
<see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>The hits come in two big peaks, one a 6 AM and one at 3PM
>PST with one smaller one at 11:15 AM.  This pattern repeats on
>weekdays and weekends.

If you are curious, I have posted the graph at
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/dropoff/hits.png
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
One of the most useful comments you can put in a program is 
"If you change this, remember to change ?XXX? too".
 

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#1536

FromDaniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net>
Date2012-01-25 15:21 -0800
Message-ID<O70Uq.158$DZ7.92@newsfe21.iad>
In reply to#1535
On 1/25/12 1:28 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:17:08 -0800, Roedy Green
> <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>  wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
> someone who said :
>
>> The hits come in two big peaks, one a 6 AM and one at 3PM
>> PST with one smaller one at 11:15 AM.  This pattern repeats on
>> weekdays and weekends.
>
> If you are curious, I have posted the graph at
> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/dropoff/hits.png
Not Found

The requested URL /jgloss/dropoff/hits.png was not found on this server.

BTW, you might want to create a 404 document.

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#1546

FromRoedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Date2012-01-30 20:41 -0800
Message-ID<o5sei7l2sr9e5qq3qiehfejqr8ib5d1hof@4ax.com>
In reply to#1536
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:21:17 -0800, Daniel Pitts
<newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> wrote, quoted or indirectly
quoted someone who said :

>> If you are curious, I have posted the graph at
>> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/dropoff/hits.png
oops

 http://mindprod.com/dropoff/hits.png


-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
One of the most useful comments you can put in a program is 
"If you change this, remember to change ?XXX? too".
 

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