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| Started by | Generic Usenet Account <usenet@sta.samsung.com> |
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| First post | 2012-11-20 10:21 -0800 |
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Is the MVC pattern OO? Generic Usenet Account <usenet@sta.samsung.com> - 2012-11-20 10:21 -0800
Re: Is the MVC pattern OO? markspace <-@.> - 2012-11-20 12:51 -0800
Re: Is the MVC pattern OO? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-11-20 13:50 -0800
| From | Generic Usenet Account <usenet@sta.samsung.com> |
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| Date | 2012-11-20 10:21 -0800 |
| Subject | Is the MVC pattern OO? |
| Message-ID | <0f35494c-0555-461e-a303-bf66a65cb5e8@g14g2000yqp.googlegroups.com> |
Hello guys, I have been studying the MVC pattern and to me it seems so non-OO. Model–View–Controller seems so functional in nature. But then I see that MVC had its origins in PARC, and was blessed by both Smalltalk and now Java. I am not sure if this is just my flawed understanding of MVC, or whether that is really so. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks, Song
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| From | markspace <-@.> |
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| Date | 2012-11-20 12:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <k8gqgr$618$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2281 |
On 11/20/2012 10:21 AM, Generic Usenet Account wrote: > Hello guys, > > I have been studying the MVC pattern and to me it seems so non-OO. > Model–View–Controller seems so functional in nature. But then I see > that MVC had its origins in PARC, and was blessed by both Smalltalk > and now Java. I am not sure if this is just my flawed understanding > of MVC, or whether that is really so. Any insight would be > appreciated. Some insight into why you think it's NOT object oriented would be appreciated. Can you explain more than a simple paragraph? Do you have some examples to give us?
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| From | Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-11-20 13:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f3deacf2-fa7c-4c98-96db-86061d1bfb3e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2281 |
Generic Usenet Account wrote: > Hello guys, > I have been studying the MVC pattern and to me it seems so non-OO. I'm with markspace. Why would you say that? > Model–View–Controller seems so functional in nature. But then I see By which you mean it has first-class functions? It uses Horn-clause logic? > that MVC had its origins in PARC, and was blessed by both Smalltalk > and now Java. I am not sure if this is just my flawed understanding > of MVC, or whether that is really so. Any insight would be > appreciated. It is really so, yes, the MVC pattern was first created for Smalltalk, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller "The model-view-controller pattern was originally formulated in the late 1970s by Trygve Reenskaug at Xerox PARC, as part of the Smalltalk system.[8][9][10]" I guess that constitutes "blessed by" Smalltalk, if you're inclined to anthropomorphize. Honestly, though, your question makes no sense, other than the part that asks us to validate that history really did happen as history really did happen. What is your real question? -- Lew
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