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Re: Elementary Questions: Java And Reading Security Cards

From Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.help
Subject Re: Elementary Questions: Java And Reading Security Cards
Date 2012-12-17 02:57 -0800
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:01:13 -0500, Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>Do I understand you correctly?  You are saying that a "Personal CAC" 
>would be safer than another type of ID or credit card in that it would 
>not leave information behind?
>
>I can see that being the case if it is a photo id and clerks look at the 
>photo.  Then again as far as debit/cred cards go, there are some that 
>use photos and a PIN.

A credit card leaves the number behind that anyone can use as easily
as the original owner. It is like leaving behind a pile of blank
cheques.  If you send it over the Internet, snoops get some blank
cheques too.

Credit cards are easy to forge. You might get stuck with at least some
charge/hassle or unnoticed fraud.

The big advantage of CAC someone seeing it has no handle to forge it
or reuse it. 

I believe a CAC contains a digital image, so even if the card were
tampered with externally, the digital image inside would be intact.
Further the card has a pin. Granted, a crooked reader could snoop on
the pin.  Ideally the pin mechanism should be built into the card,
requiring no external hardware. e.g. fingerprint id.

If your ID is not secure, it can harm you.  People can do bad things
and rack up debt in your name. It is then up to you to prove
otherwise.

Digital ID is expensive. That is why I think you should need only one,
and it should serve many purposes. 

We put up with dragging around so many different kinds of ID cards,
all of which expire and need to be separately maintained.  They are
all easy to forge. Whereever I can, I refuse to carry any sort of ID
card.

The ID I find most annoying is the kind supermarkets want you to carry
or else they charge 20% extra. 

-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Students who hire or con others to do their homework are as foolish 
as couch potatoes who hire others to go to the gym for them. 

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Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-06 09:45 -0500
  Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-12-06 11:01 -0800
    Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-06 15:56 -0500
  Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-06 14:47 -0800
    Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-07 10:01 -0500
      Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-07 11:49 -0800
        Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-08 10:05 -0500
  Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-06 14:58 -0800
    Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-07 10:05 -0500
      Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-07 11:54 -0800
        Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-08 10:02 -0500
          Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-08 16:27 -0800
            Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 11:28 -0500
              Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-12 20:39 -0800
                Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-13 10:01 -0500
                Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-12-17 02:57 -0800
  Re: Elementary Questions:  Java And Reading Security Cards Steve <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 11:30 -0500

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