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Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper?

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On 3/31/2013 8:52 PM, themattfella wrote:
> On 03/29/2013 08:13 PM, Lew wrote:
>> I would start with the Java tutorials on the Oracle website and work
>> from there.
>
> Yes, I found http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/index.html, and it's
> pretty bad.  Not what I would call textbook quality.

The tutorials themselves are not what I would call pedagogical.  They're 
not really great at teaching.  They do make an excellent reference and 
have great examples for when you want specifics.

If you need to learn from the beginning, getting a beginners book is a 
good idea.  So is taking a class.  That's what I did.  You can learn by 
doing, but I find this frustrating because you're constantly running 
into walls where you don't know how to accomplish basic goals, and 
you're constantly aware that your initial efforts are sub-standard.

For books, I recommend O'Reilly's Learning Java, third edition.  The 
WROX series is also good.  There's the javapassion.com online website 
where you can take courses.  I found them to be really well organized 
and useful for getting yourself over the initial learning hump.  I 
really hate fumbling around and only half knowing what I'm doing, so an 
organized online class worked very well for me.

There's also local community colleges, and you could get a group 
together of interested parties to all learn the language together.  This 
group can help a bit with the latter.  If you post up programs you have 
written, you can often get useful critiques about different ways to 
accomplish your goals.

Good luck.

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Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? themattfella <themattfella@xyyzzz.com> - 2013-03-29 01:43 -0500
  Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-03-28 23:49 -0700
  Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-03-29 18:13 -0700
    Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-03-30 08:34 -0700
    Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? themattfella <themattfella@xyyzzz.com> - 2013-03-31 22:52 -0500
      Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-03-31 21:00 -0700
      Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-04-01 16:14 +0200
      Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-04-01 08:53 -0700
        Re: Still Relevant: Original Gosling/McGilton Java White Paper? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-04-01 10:44 -0700

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