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On 11/15/2011 10:13 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 11/15/2011 6:59 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
>
>> Okay. I'll call it "Haddocks' Eyes."
>>
>> The operations you describe do not "reinstantiate" anything unless
>> we choose to adopt the White Knight's verbiage. Rather, they create
>
> I don't follow "White Knight's verbiage" here. Are you referring to
> Alice in Wonderland? I think you might mean Humpty Dumpty.

     No, although HD touches on some of the same subject matter.

> “I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’ ” Alice said.
> Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t—till I tell
> you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’ ”
> “But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.
> “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it
> means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

	'You are sad,' the Knight said in an anxious tone: 'let me
	sing you a song to comfort you.'

	'Is it very long?' Alice asked, for she had heard a good deal
	of poetry that day.

	'It's long,' said the Knight, 'but it's very, very beautiful.
	Everybody that hears me sing it -- either it brings the tears
	into their eyes, or else --'

	'Or else what?' said Alice, for the Knight had made a sudden
	pause.

	'Or else it doesn't, you know. The name of the song is called
	"Haddocks' Eyes".'

	'Oh, that's the name of the song, is it?' Alice said, trying
	to feel interested.

	'No, you don't understand,' the Knight said, looking a little
	vexed. 'That's what the name is called. The name really is
	"The Aged Aged Man".'

	'Then I ought to have said "That's what the song is called"?'
	Alice corrected herself.

	'No, you oughtn't: that's quite another thing! The song is
	called "Ways and Means": but that's only what it's called,
	you know!'

	'Well, what is the song, then?' said Alice, who was by this
	time completely bewildered.

	'I was coming to that,' the Knight said. 'The song really is
	"A-sitting On a Gate": and the tune's my own invention.'

>> one object instance and later create another. You will find that the
>> two instances have nothing in common beyond belonging to the same class.
>> I am an instance of homo sapiens, you (I suppose) are another; are you
>> my reinstantiation or am I yours?
>
> Luke! I am your father!

     That explains a lot, God wot.  Or not.

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid

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  Re: Disposing of Objects? markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-15 07:08 -0800
    Re: Disposing of Objects? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-15 08:17 -0800
      Re: Disposing of Objects? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 09:56 -0800
        Re: Disposing of Objects? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-15 10:10 -0800
          Re: Disposing of Objects? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 12:15 -0800
            Re: Disposing of Objects? markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-15 12:51 -0800
        Re: Disposing of Objects? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-15 13:00 -0800
        Re: Disposing of Objects? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-15 21:59 -0500
          Re: Disposing of Objects? markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-15 19:13 -0800
            Re: Disposing of Objects? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-15 22:32 -0500
  Re: Disposing of Objects? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 08:08 -0800
    Re: Disposing of Objects? markspace <-@.> - 2011-11-15 08:32 -0800
    Re: Disposing of Objects? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-15 12:57 -0800
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