Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.java.help > #1630

Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners?

From Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.help
Subject Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners?
Date 2012-03-01 11:39 -0800
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <9pjvk7p6d8jsc5su6us9v91e9str4hona0@4ax.com> (permalink)
References <e58a813b-f137-4589-b19a-ab25d84c3c50@gi10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <kf6tk7hjfqjefod87s4u28c97rv2q90m4i@4ax.com> <jinavn$ffv$1@news.albasani.net> <43cvk7lu5lok1qr46r49lapt2ai299tnq0@4ax.com> <jiod2u$kri$1@news.albasani.net>

Show all headers | View raw


On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:53:33 -0800, Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> wrote:

>On 03/01/2012 09:33 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:11:38 -0800, Lew<noone@lewscanon.com>  wrote:

>>> Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

>>>>        One exercise that I have done in a number of languages is a
>>>> multiplication table.  First, get the output somehow.  Then, get it
>>>> nicely lined up.  Then, have it be a choice of operators.  (This can
>>>> complicate the formatting.)  Allow user input.  And so on.  Play with
>>>> it until you quit learning from it.  Then, make up another example.
>>>> Lather, rinse, repeat.
>>>>
>>>>        If you want to learn about string handling, write a simple text
>>>> adventure.
>>>
>>> Hmm - might not be the greatest way to focus on string handling.
>>
>>       It will get the basics.  If he needs something else, then he can
>> do something else.
>
>I am concerned because he might not get the basics. There is a lot that goes 
>into writing a text adventure besides string handling that might obscure the 
>lesson.

     Well, I get the feeling that OP is fairly new to programming.  If
that is so, he needs practice with a lot of things and integrating
them.  It could be a very crude implementation if that is his level.

     I did write a bit of an adventure game when I was learning C.  I
just had locations and navigation.  There was not that much to it.

>>> And what constitutes a "simple" text adventure [game]?
>>
>>       A few rooms, a few objects, a few special commands.  If it gets
>> so complicated that the focus is no longer learning, then he is
>> off-track.  This is not to say that he could not write a complicated
>> program, but then it is no longer just a pedagogical tool.
>
>You might be right at that. I fear only that it's already too complex for a 
>pedagogical tool, but maybe I'm wrong.

     I did not say anything about how good the game would be.  The
entertainment value would come from writing it, not playing it.

[snip]

>I agree with your principles, and now with your elucidated points (mostly). 
>Thanks for the clarification.

     You are welcome.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Back to comp.lang.java.help | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar


Thread

Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? navanshu <mahor1989@gmail.com> - 2012-02-28 13:53 -0800
  Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-02-28 14:48 -0800
  Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Ten Blade <ten.blade@tenblade.com> - 2012-02-29 14:15 +0000
    Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Ten Blade <ten.blade@tenblade.com> - 2012-02-29 21:34 +0000
  Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-29 13:42 -0800
    Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-03-01 00:11 -0800
      Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-03-01 09:33 -0800
        Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-03-01 09:53 -0800
          Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-03-01 11:39 -0800
  Re: Is there any specific book for learning java projects for beginners? Casey Hawthorne <casey.hawthorneHAMMER_TIME@uniserve.com> - 2012-03-16 09:12 -0700

csiph-web