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  AWT versus Swing "Daniel Kraft" <daniel.kraft@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this> - 2011-04-27 15:35 +0000
    Re: AWT versus Swing "Roedy Green" <roedy.green@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this> - 2011-04-27 15:35 +0000
    Re: AWT versus Swing "Andrew Thompson" <andrew.thompson@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this> - 2011-04-27 15:35 +0000

#1847 — AWT versus Swing

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Hi all,

I apologize as I believe this could probably be a very common question.
But I wasn't able to find *really* what I was looking for searching the 
internet so far.

I've all times used AWT for UIs in Java, despite the fact that all the 
other world seems to be using Swing.  I do not really "need" these fancy 
Java-look and instead prefer the plain, platform-common look instead; 
also, I think Swing is really sensible slower than AWT and if your 
platform already has fast and stable widgets, why not use them?

On the other hand, I already read some rumours that AWT will be 
deprecated somewhere in the future, which I can't believe as Swing is 
based on AWT, AFAIK.

So do you guys have any information/comments/corrections about my 
assumptions or any real objections against using AWT or are there even 
others who prefer AWT, too?

Yours,
Daniel

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#1851

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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:45:07 +0000, Daniel Kraft <d@domob.eu> wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>So do you guys have any information/comments/corrections about my 
>assumptions or any real objections against using AWT or are there even 
>others who prefer AWT, too?

Other than the plainer look, AWT is based on using peer components.
That means your program will look and feel different on different
platforms. It will have different bugs.

I am gradually flipping my old AWT apps to Swing.  With Microsoft
pushing people toward Vista, they are also pushing out the old MS and
Sun Javas.
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#1852

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Daniel Kraft wrote:
..
>I've all times used AWT for UIs in Java, despite the fact that all the 
>other world seems to be using Swing.  I do not really "need" these fancy 
>Java-look and instead prefer the plain, platform-common look instead; 

I often call the platform's default PLAF - so
the end user can feel mostly at home, while also 
enjoying the benefits of such GUI components
as JTables and JTrees.  From the development
side, I like the 'throw away simplicity' of JOptionPane, 
and the ease of developing using GUI components 
that will render HTML.

I code AWT as well, but primarily for applets that 
must be 1.1 compatible (I write too many of those,
it seems).  Any 1.2+ project, I would generally use
Swing.

>also, I think Swing is really sensible slower than AWT ..

Is it?  Even if Swing components need 'a few microseconds'
longer to construct* these sorts of things can mostly be done 
transparently on a thread in the background.  

Once constructed and displayed, I find Swing components
every bit as fast as AWT, to show, hide or update.

* I am not too sure, have not seen/done any benchmarks.

>..and if your 
>platform already has fast and stable widgets, why not use them?

Roedy put forward some good reasons, not that
Swing and PLAF's are a rock solid solution either
(I suspect every API has bugs).

>On the other hand, I already read some rumours that AWT will be 
>deprecated somewhere in the future, which I can't believe as Swing is 
>based on AWT, AFAIK.

I cannot imagine that AWT ..Buttons and TextFields
would *ever* be removed from the API.  And, as you 
noticed, a lot of a Swing GUI's functionality (most 
events, most layouts, colors, images, printing, basic 
D'n'D, graphics/environment..) uses AWT classes and
packages.

>So do you guys have any information/comments/corrections about my 
>assumptions or any real objections against using AWT or are there even 
>others who prefer AWT, too?

Most people are coding for the server side,
very little AWT/Swing/SWT or J2ME, but by
far Swing is the chosen widget kit.  One good
reason is that if you ask people about a problem
with Swing, you are much likely to find someone 
that knows the answer!  A lot of people have 
forgotten the 'subtleties' of AWT GUI coding.

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Andrew Thompson
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