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Re: Local database library

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> wrote:

>Kevin Nathan wrote:
>>>> So, my question is: Does anyone know of a good tutorial on how to
>>>> build a library of routines in Java?  
>
>The Java Tutorial.
>http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
>
>Read about JAR files.
>
>All a "library of routines" is is a JAR file of classes.
>

Yes, I understand that, but as you mention below, I'm very new at Java.
I've been going through tutorials and have a lot more to go through. I
just really need a better handle on Java, overall.


>Since database access in Java is a rich and extremely large area, and
>you apparently still lack information on how to build any kind of
>project in Java,  that is advisable.
>

And reading tutorials is what I am doing, now. I was hoping it would be
mostly modifying the structure of the C++ program into Java, but that
doesn't seem to be the case.


>There are pitfalls galore in writing just "a local library of database
>access routines". Most likely you'll wind up with an overblown and
>unmaintainable mess that people have to shoehorn into their logic with
>more effort than just using JPA or JDBC themselves.
>

The current C++ code has a DAO library, written about thirteen years
ago and based on C code for twenty-some years before that, that I
thought I could mimic. Apparently, I can't.


>I've done a lot of experimentation with different ways of coding
>database access in Java, and the flat-out worst was a comprehensive
>"local library of database access routines".
>

I get your point.

>By far the easiest to code and maintain was a non-monolithic JPA
>approach.
>
>But you really should know at least *something* about writing database
>access before engaging in the overweening presumption of building a
>"library" for others to use.
>

I started reading through some info on JPA, and I would like to get
there, eventually. But we have a data structure that's been tested and
working since the mid-1970's. It started in BASIC, of all things, but
quickly migrated to C and stayed there (mostly under Real/32 DOS) for
about 25 years, which was the form I maintained for its last 6 years. 

I was in on the beginning of the transition to Linux and C++ but ended
up moving before it was finished. That was nine years ago and the
decision to use Qt3 is now biting them in the butt. Conversion to Qt4
is a nightmare. So, they decided to move to Java which should help
insulate them from OS changes, a bit. They called me to see if I could
help so they didn't have to train someone in the livestock auction
system, since I already was quite familiar with it. A professional
company gave them an estimate of 5,000 man-hours to convert it from Qt3
to Qt4 -- the original program only took one man 60 days to write,
initially. So the decision was made to just rewrite it in a new
language and UI library.

I have a fully-functioning and tested DAO library written in-house
(originally in C, then moved to C++) and wanted to mimic that in Java
using the SQL currently existing. I thought that would be easy. I was
wrong. I also thought that all I'd really need to do was generate new
screens and use much of the C++ logic, just modifying it for use under
Java. I was wrong, again.

This is *not* something for general use by others. We have about 60
clients and add maybe one or two a year, some years. It's only for our
use in-house and will never see the light of day. If they keep me on
long enough, I will redo the program for JPA, but a quick solution is
necessary. Once I learn how to convert SQL like this:

String command =
          "SELECT "
        + "SELLERID, HEAD, DESCRIP, "
        + "ROUND(WEIGHT/HEAD) AS AVG_WGT, "
        + "WEIGHT, BUYERID, PRICE, BUYERPEN, "
        + "(SELECT name FROM seller "
        + "WHERE date=(SELECT MAX(start) FROM sales WHERE sel=1) "
        + "AND number=trans.sellerid) AS NAME, "
        + "(SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(tag_num) FROM backtags "
        + "WHERE trans_id=trans.trans_id and ckin_date=(SELECT
MAX(start) FROM sales "
        + "WHERE sel=1) GROUP BY trans_id) AS ALLTAGS "
        + "FROM trans "
        + "WHERE TRANS_ID = '" + transNum + "' "
        + "AND date=(SELECT MAX(start) FROM sales WHERE sel=1)";

and even more complex queries into JPA, I will start that process.
Until that happens, I will have to muddle through with the brute force
methods that a previous programmer used...


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Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA)  
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                Re: Local database library Kevin Nathan <knathan@project54.com> - 2013-10-05 12:49 -0700
  Re: Local database library "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-02 15:37 -0400
    Re: Local database library Kevin Nathan <knathan@project54.com> - 2013-10-04 11:02 -0700
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