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Forth200x 11-1 released

Started by"Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk>
First post2012-03-04 18:28 +0000
Last post2012-03-05 14:17 +0000
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  Forth200x 11-1 released "Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk> - 2012-03-04 18:28 +0000
    Re: Forth200x 11-1 released "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-04 20:55 +0000
      Re: Forth200x 11-1 released Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2012-03-04 15:07 -0600
    Re: Forth200x 11-1 released hwfwguy@gmail.com - 2012-03-04 19:19 -0800
    Re: Forth200x 11-1 released rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-03-04 20:56 -0800
    Re: Forth200x 11-1 released Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 22:51 -0800
      Re: Forth200x 11-1 released "Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk> - 2012-03-05 12:21 +0000
        Re: Forth200x 11-1 released anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-03-05 14:17 +0000

#9848 — Forth200x 11-1 released

From"Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk>
Date2012-03-04 18:28 +0000
SubjectForth200x 11-1 released
Message-ID<op.wanr9spssu5d0p@david>
I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the Vienna  
meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:

http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf

-- 
Peter Knaggs

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#9850

From"WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com>
Date2012-03-04 20:55 +0000
Message-ID<jj0kr403123@enews6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#9848
Peter Knaggs wrote:

> I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the Vienna
> meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:
> 
> http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf

I hope that you have taken care to preserve the ANS tradition
of keeping Forth as primitive and as low-level as possible.
After all, toilet-flushers have to be programmed in some language.

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#9851

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com>
Date2012-03-04 15:07 -0600
Message-ID<bMOdnakL_87kRM7SnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#9850
WJ wrote:
> Peter Knaggs wrote:
>
>> I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the Vienna
>> meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:
>>
>> http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf
>
> I hope that you have taken care to preserve the ANS tradition
> of keeping Forth as primitive and as low-level as possible.
> After all, toilet-flushers have to be programmed in some language.

Do you feel the need to be flushed.
   dat b dbl entendre ;/


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#9854

Fromhwfwguy@gmail.com
Date2012-03-04 19:19 -0800
Message-ID<19427474.2351.1330917566726.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbux23>
In reply to#9848
On Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:28:30 AM UTC-7, Peter Knaggs wrote:
> I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the Vienna  
> meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:
> 
> http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf
> 
> -- 
> Peter Knaggs

Nice. Besides spring cleaning, it standardizes a lot of "roll your own" practices like multi-byte strings, escaped strings, structures, etc. Good to see Forth evolving.

-Brad

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#9855

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2012-03-04 20:56 -0800
Message-ID<efc2cb03-287b-43d7-b703-8f8338c87207@w19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#9848
On Mar 4, 1:28 pm, "Peter Knaggs" <p...@bcs.org.uk> wrote:
> I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the Vienna
> meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:
>
> http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf
>
> --
> Peter Knaggs

This may sound like a little thing, but reading through the document I
found the name of the word in a definition to be a little hard to pick
out.  Maybe "hard" is not the right word, but I would have thought
that the name of the word, more than anything else in the definition,
would be designed to stand out.

After all, the word name is most likely the one thing you are looking
for when scanning the document.  This is exactly when you would want
the name to stand out from the rest of the definition.  I don't recall
seeing an issue with that in previous editions of the Forth standard.
Looking at a copy I see the word name looks bold face.

Is there a reason this was changed?  Wouldn't it be an easier to use
document if the name of the word being defined was bold?

Rick

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#9856

FromMark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2012-03-04 22:51 -0800
Message-ID<112176f2-82e4-4e2a-b19a-95f68a8229fe@s7g2000vby.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#9848
On Mar 4, 6:28 pm, "Peter Knaggs" <p...@bcs.org.uk> wrote:
> I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the Vienna
> meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:
>
> http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf
>
> --
> Peter Knaggs

Thank you, Peter.

I note in section 1.3.2 it says the annex on differences shows the
differences between this standard an Forth 83. Will it be updated show
the differences between ANS and 200x?

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#9858

From"Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk>
Date2012-03-05 12:21 +0000
Message-ID<op.wao5xkcqsu5d0p@david>
In reply to#9856
Mark Wills wrote:

> On Mar 4, 6:28 pm, "Peter Knaggs" <p...@bcs.org.uk> wrote:
>> I have now released the Standard document with the changes from the  
>> Vienna
>> meeting.  It can be downloaded from the normal place:
>>
>> http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth11-1.pdf
>>
>> --
>> Peter Knaggs
>
> Thank you, Peter.
>
> I note in section 1.3.2 it says the annex on differences shows the
> differences between this standard an Forth 83. Will it be updated show
> the differences between ANS and 200x?

Yes.

Now all we need is for somebody to update the annex.

-- 
Peter Knaggs

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#9860

Fromanton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Date2012-03-05 14:17 +0000
Message-ID<2012Mar5.151709@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
In reply to#9858
"Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk> writes:
>Now all we need is for somebody to update the annex.

Yes, I know I am late.

- anton
-- 
M. Anton Ertl  http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
     New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
   EuroForth 2011: http://www.euroforth.org/ef11/

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