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  Please stop feeding the troll fred <email@address.com> - 2013-05-13 12:32 +0100
    Re: Please stop feeding the troll rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-13 08:59 -0400
      Re: Please stop feeding the troll Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-05-13 09:01 -0500
        Re: Please stop feeding the troll fred <email@address.com> - 2013-05-13 15:22 +0100
          Re: Please stop feeding the troll rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-13 14:21 -0400
            Re: Please stop feeding the troll Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2013-05-13 17:48 -0400
              Re: Please stop feeding the troll rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-13 23:07 -0400
                Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-13 22:53 -0700
                  Re: Please stop feeding the troll rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 05:17 -0400
                  Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 09:10 -0700
                    Re: Please stop feeding the troll daveyrotten <danw8804@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 10:10 -0700
                      Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 10:47 -0700
                    Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-14 18:45 -0700
                      Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 19:33 -0700
                        Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 20:42 -0700
                        Re: Please stop feeding the troll Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-05-14 20:50 -0700
                          Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 21:13 -0700
                            Re: Please stop feeding the troll rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 01:36 -0400
                              Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-14 23:11 -0700
                                Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 00:32 -0700
                                  Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-15 02:31 -0700
                              Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 23:27 -0700
                        Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-14 23:07 -0700
                          Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 00:17 -0700
                            Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 00:28 -0700
                            Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-15 02:24 -0700
                              Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 10:47 -0700
                                Re: Please stop feeding the troll hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-15 16:52 -0700
                                  Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 18:51 -0700
                                  Re: Please stop feeding the troll albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-05-17 14:30 +0000
                                    Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-19 05:17 -0700
                              Re: Please stop feeding the troll awegel@arcor.de (Alex Wegel) - 2013-05-16 01:50 +0200
              Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 08:33 -0700
    Re: Please stop feeding the troll rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 02:58 -0400
      Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 00:20 -0700
      Re: Please stop feeding the troll jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 08:39 -0700
        Re: Please stop feeding the troll Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 10:47 -0700

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#22561 — Please stop feeding the troll

you know who I mean; because I nearly plonked people here I respect by 
mistake. That would have been a shame.

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#22563

On 5/13/2013 7:32 AM, fred wrote:
>
>
> you know who I mean; because I nearly plonked people here I respect by
> mistake. That would have been a shame.

Actually, I have no idea which of us you consider "the troll" and who 
you respect.  Hmmm... I'm not trying to be a troll, but this could be 
considered a troll post I suppose.

I'll try to refrain from replying to the "other" trolls.  Sometimes I 
just can't resist, the irony in their posts is rather remarkable.

-- 

Rick

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#22564

rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 7:32 AM, fred wrote:
>>
>>
>> you know who I mean; because I nearly plonked people here I respect by
>> mistake. That would have been a shame.
> 
> Actually, I have no idea which of us you consider "the troll" and who 
> you respect.  Hmmm... I'm not trying to be a troll, but this could be 
> considered a troll post I suppose.

Naah, 'taint you.  You don't come close.  You just have your opinions
and express them.  That's OK.  No, that's good!

Andrew.

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#22567

In article <uoGdnYBfgpOobw3MnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@supernews.com>, andrew29
@littlepinkcloud.invalid says...
> > Actually, I have no idea which of us you consider "the troll" and who 
> > you respect.  Hmmm... I'm not trying to be a troll, but this could be 
> > considered a troll post I suppose.
> 

sorry if you thought so - it wasnt meant to be.

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#22570

On 5/13/2013 10:22 AM, fred wrote:
> In article<uoGdnYBfgpOobw3MnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@supernews.com>, andrew29
> @littlepinkcloud.invalid says...
>>> Actually, I have no idea which of us you consider "the troll" and who
>>> you respect.  Hmmm... I'm not trying to be a troll, but this could be
>>> considered a troll post I suppose.
>>
>
> sorry if you thought so - it wasnt meant to be.

No offense taken.  I just didn't know.

Actually I can be offended by posts.  Some I have received over the 
years have been very hurtful, especially the ones from otherwise 
professional people who I would otherwise respect.  But things are 
different when posting on the Internet.  Without the face to face 
contact people say things they would *never* say to your face... not if 
they want to keep their face.

-- 

Rick

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#22571

rickman  wrote:
>No offense taken.  I just didn't know.

I assume Fred meant the trollino.
--
Roberto Waltman

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#22575

On 5/13/2013 5:48 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
> rickman  wrote:
>> No offense taken.  I just didn't know.
>
> I assume Fred meant the trollino.

He doesn't bother me so much as others.  But I realize I have been 
feeding him again.  It's just that he's so *cute* when you give him a 
cookie and he does the little dance.

-- 

Rick

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#22576

On Monday, May 13, 2013 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 5:48 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
> > rickman  wrote:
> >> No offense taken.  I just didn't know.
> 
> > I assume Fred meant the trollino.
> 
> He doesn't bother me so much as others.  But I realize I have been 
> feeding him again.  It's just that he's so *cute* when you give him a 
> cookie and he does the little dance.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick

Rickman is a troll. As long as I can remember, he has been taunting people, trying to get an emotional response out of them. He accused me of being homosexual over on the win32forth mailing list. I suppose he was trying to get me to do a "little dance" for him.

I think Rickman taunts people on the internet because he doesn't have any pride, and he just wants to drag people down to his own level, to prove that he is not the only loser in the world. I consider Rickman to be in roughly the same category as Passaniti. Neither of them ever post any Forth code, or appear to have ever written a Forth program, but both claim to be great experts on Forth. That is typical troll behavior.

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#22579

On 5/14/2013 1:53 AM, hughaguilar96@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 13, 2013 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
>> On 5/13/2013 5:48 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>>> rickman  wrote:
>>>> No offense taken.  I just didn't know.
>>
>>> I assume Fred meant the trollino.
>>
>> He doesn't bother me so much as others.  But I realize I have been
>> feeding him again.  It's just that he's so *cute* when you give him a
>> cookie and he does the little dance.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick
>
> Rickman is a troll. As long as I can remember, he has been taunting people, trying to get an emotional response out of them. He accused me of being homosexual over on the win32forth mailing list. I suppose he was trying to get me to do a "little dance" for him.
>
> I think Rickman taunts people on the internet because he doesn't have any pride, and he just wants to drag people down to his own level, to prove that he is not the only loser in the world. I consider Rickman to be in roughly the same category as Passaniti. Neither of them ever post any Forth code, or appear to have ever written a Forth program, but both claim to be great experts on Forth. That is typical troll behavior.

I think you have me confused with some other rickman.  I have *never* 
claimed to be a "great expert in Forth".  I'm here to learn something 
about Forth and sometimes ask for advice on programming.  For the most 
part, I have already heard the word and just need to be reminded. 
Things like when Jeff Fox said that if you have stack 
overflows/underflows you don't need a debugger, you just need to be able 
to count!

Then there is the odd post on forth inspired hardware.

-- 

Rick

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#22586

hughaguila...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 13, 2013 8:07:20 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> > On 5/13/2013 5:48 PM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
> > > rickman  wrote:
> > >> No offense taken.  I just didn't know.
> >
> > > I assume Fred meant the trollino.
> >
> > He doesn't bother me so much as others.  But I realize I have been
> > feeding him again.  It's just that he's so *cute* when you give him a
> > cookie and he does the little dance.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rick
>
> Rickman is a troll. As long as I can remember, he has been taunting people, trying to get an emotional response out of them. He accused me of being homosexual over on the win32forth mailing list. I suppose he was trying to get me to do a "little dance" for him.
>
> I think Rickman taunts people on the internet because he doesn't have any pride, and he just wants to drag people down to his own level, to prove that he is not the only loser in the world. I consider Rickman to be in roughly the same category as Passaniti. Neither of them ever post any Forth code, or appear to have ever written a Forth program, but both claim to be great experts on Forth. That is typical troll behavior.

Anybody know his real name?

Something sounds familiar.  Been posting with him before, to give him
a chance, rather than assume worst, like others may given same
circumstance.  Had a trawl infestation on my discussion, please go
over there and blacklist them all, eventually they can taunt each
other.  Well, another 20 hours being nice to people that don't get it,
watching them dance around clumsily in the shadows, undermining
others.  Psychologically it is not compatible with somebody I would
want to hire.  I need somebody with superior intelligence, but then
would they understand what that means?

I think if we don't feed Rick man and friends, but ignore them, they
will have to get message.

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#22589

> Anybody know his real name?
> 
> Something sounds familiar.  Been posting with him before, to give him
> a chance, rather than assume worst, like others may given same
> circumstance.  Had a trawl infestation on my discussion, please go
> over there and blacklist them all, eventually they can taunt each
> other.  Well, another 20 hours being nice to people that don't get it,
> watching them dance around clumsily in the shadows, undermining
> others.  Psychologically it is not compatible with somebody I would
> want to hire.  I need somebody with superior intelligence, but then
> would they understand what that means?
> 
> I think if we don't feed Rick man and friends, but ignore them, they
> will have to get message.

Hugely misguided and outrageously optimistic expectations coupled with a total inablility to communicate them. Yep, you'd make the perfect boss Steve. Sign me up!

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#22591

daveyrotten wrote:
> > Anybody know his real name?
> >
> > Something sounds familiar.  Been posting with him before, to give him
> > a chance, rather than assume worst, like others may given same
> > circumstance.  Had a trawl infestation on my discussion, please go
> > over there and blacklist them all, eventually they can taunt each
> > other.  Well, another 20 hours being nice to people that don't get it,
> > watching them dance around clumsily in the shadows, undermining
> > others.  Psychologically it is not compatible with somebody I would
> > want to hire.  I need somebody with superior intelligence, but then
> > would they understand what that means?
> >
> > I think if we don't feed Rick man and friends, but ignore them, they
> > will have to get message.
>
> Hugely misguided and outrageously optimistic expectations coupled with a total inablility to communicate them. Yep, you'd make the perfect boss Steve. Sign me up!

I meant to sound a bit misguided and overly optimistic about them, I
was being nice about it, but the inability to communicate remark, do I
smell a trawl?  Davey Rotten. that sounds as made up as something
"man". :-)  Is this your 8th post on Usenet in 2 years Dan?

Hm, guys a couple of your accounts seem to have big gaps of
inactivity, then unusually feather light posting afterwards.

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#22607

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:10:51 AM UTC-7, Steve wrote:
> Anybody know his real name?

It is Rick Collins.

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#22608

hughaguila...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:10:51 AM UTC-7, Steve wrote:
> > Anybody know his real name?
>
> It is Rick Collins.

You mean Rickman is Rick Collins, and Rick Collins is Rickman.

Thanks, always good to know the name of people doing stuff around ones
business.

Which city does he live in?

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#22609

Steve wrote:
> hughaguila...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:10:51 AM UTC-7, Steve wrote:
> > > Anybody know his real name?
> >
> > It is Rick Collins.
>
> You mean Rickman is Rick Collins, and Rick Collins is Rickman.
>
> Thanks, always good to know the name of people doing stuff around ones
> business.
>
> Which city does he live in?

This is a community effort at figuring out standards of self
management and action.

How many finger puppets do some people have here?  A finger puppet
(meaning potentially many fingers with puppets).  A finger puppet can
be used for protection, such as you want to do some research but don't
want your business opposition to know what you are up to, even to hide
from a troll; or used to hide behind to attack others, trolling,
causing potentially millions of dollars damage to business ventures,
as is the present case.

Dealing with.

If you go to Google groups and look at the profiles of members, you
will see accounts that hardly post and usually in troling efforts off
their main account, or main tolling account.  Not fresh accounts with
good effort of a lot of sensible posts (not that many people can tell
what is sense with new ideas, but blatant tolling sticks out among
sense).  You will also see long stretches of non posting, before
posting resumes with abnormally light posting for trolling. This may
indicate that a email account was surrendered closed down and reopened
by somebody else for trolling.  So you could check that they still
post in the same groups as the same person.  It could be that they
were busy for a time/year, or there has been a tragedy.

The other way, that I have been meaning to look at, is to see if any
header information reveals that multiple accounts are being posted
from the same computer.  Unfortunately for troll and puppets, we have
many years of archive posts, in which time most are bound to side
posted under different identities in the same group for trolling
purposes, if they are trolls.  So, look out for sudden new accounts
turning up in coming weeks and months.  Anything new through anonymous
servers should immediately be suspect.

If after you encourage somebody along to understanding and truth, and
they are still deliberately evasivly avoiding and fane
misunderstanding, they could be a troll wasting valuable time and
earnings with nothing offered in return, on top of losses and
hardship.

I welcome everybody to look into this, and black list any account used
to troll trouble and anybody.  Not what just annoys you (which might
indicate trolling leanings in yourself) and that is not trying to
cause trouble, but instead what may be given trouble.  I suspect the
trolls either to make big noise, or hide, or having said that, try to
appear moderate and cool.  I welcome the trolls blacklisting me.  I
will get left alone :-)

We are all here to get along, even if we disagree.

------

A right of free speech is given to actual persons.  Here we don't stop
people posting, but allowing people to choose who to look at, as it
always has been in Usenet going back into ancient history of society
and the world at large, in a more affective way for Usenet approaching
the standard face to face identifiable meetings.

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#22611

Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> writes:
> You mean Rickman is Rick Collins, and Rick Collins is Rickman.
> Thanks, always good to know the name of people doing stuff around ones
> business.
> Which city does he live in?

You are getting creepy, especially since you don't post your own full name.

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#22613

Paul Rubin wrote:
> Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> writes:
> > You mean Rickman is Rick Collins, and Rick Collins is Rickman.
> > Thanks, always good to know the name of people doing stuff around ones
> > business.
> > Which city does he live in?
>
> You are getting creepy, especially since you don't post your own full name.

I'm not aiming to visit him.  I know Collins',  he sounds like a
Collins.  Undoubtedly not related.  Good to know where issues come
from.  Nothing unusual in that.

Doesn't one have the right to hide from people causing them issues,
for protection.  I have seen his past posts.

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#22615

On 5/15/2013 12:13 AM, Steve wrote:
>
>
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>> Steve<nospam275@gmail.com>  writes:
>>> You mean Rickman is Rick Collins, and Rick Collins is Rickman.
>>> Thanks, always good to know the name of people doing stuff around ones
>>> business.
>>> Which city does he live in?
>>
>> You are getting creepy, especially since you don't post your own full name.
>
> I'm not aiming to visit him.  I know Collins',  he sounds like a
> Collins.  Undoubtedly not related.  Good to know where issues come
> from.  Nothing unusual in that.
>
> Doesn't one have the right to hide from people causing them issues,
> for protection.  I have seen his past posts.

Lol!  Go ahead, visit me.  It would be an incredible trip to meet you. 
That is... if you can *find* me.  You can find all sorts of info on me, 
but I seriously doubt anyone here could ever actually find me... I'm a 
phantom... lol

If you mean I am causing you "issues", I apologize.  I'm not trying to 
give you any grief.  In fact, this thread wasn't started my me.  So I'm 
not sure why you are focusing on me.  Still, that's ok.  Go ahead and 
focus on me if you want.  But your efforts would be better spent trying 
to focus on your work and finding a way to communicate to folks here. 
You may think you have explained things well, but obviously there are 
many here who don't really understand and *not* because they didn't read 
what you wrote.  I know I have tried, tried hard to understand your posts.

-- 

Rick

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#22620

On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:36:26 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 12:13 AM, Steve wrote:
> 
> > Paul Rubin wrote:
> >> Steve<nospam275@gmail.com>  writes:
> >>> You mean Rickman is Rick Collins, and Rick Collins is Rickman.
> >>> Thanks, always good to know the name of people doing stuff around ones
> >>> business.
> >>> Which city does he live in?
> 
> >> You are getting creepy, especially since you don't post your own full name.
> > I'm not aiming to visit him.  I know Collins',  he sounds like a
> > Collins.  Undoubtedly not related.  Good to know where issues come
> > from.  Nothing unusual in that.
> 
> > Doesn't one have the right to hide from people causing them issues,
> > for protection.  I have seen his past posts.

 
> Lol!  Go ahead, visit me.  It would be an incredible trip to meet you. 
> That is... if you can *find* me.  You can find all sorts of info on me, 
> but I seriously doubt anyone here could ever actually find me... I'm a 
> phantom... lol

Sure, living in your parent's basement would make you difficult to find! lol
That is not security --- that is obscurity.

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#22627

hughaguila...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:36:26 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> > That is... if you can *find* me.  You can find all sorts of info on me,
> > but I seriously doubt anyone here could ever actually find me... I'm a
> > phantom... lol
>
> Sure, living in your parent's basement would make you difficult to find! lol
> That is not security --- that is obscurity.

I try not to participate in jokes like this, but that was funny.

Did he really say that?

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