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| Started by | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-08-15 20:20 -0700 |
| Last post | 2013-08-20 15:37 -0700 |
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gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-15 20:20 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-08-16 04:04 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-16 16:51 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-08-17 02:46 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 02:50 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? Spam@ControlQ.com - 2013-08-20 11:11 -0400
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 15:36 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-08-20 10:38 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 15:37 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-08-21 08:56 +0000
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-08-21 04:52 -0500
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-08-16 04:07 -0700
Re: gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-08-20 15:37 -0700
| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-15 20:20 -0700 |
| Subject | gui forthos for pc soon? 1% code? |
| Message-ID | <6fc5c499-9eae-4e9a-afbd-25da88eecfc9@googlegroups.com> |
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| From | Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-08-16 04:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cd5d9e6a-c50e-428c-8b48-46ff9bd97130@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25235 |
On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > when? Hi Gavino, Chuck Moore released an extremely minimal colorForth in 2001, and I host two simple distributions of this for Windows here : http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010_4v1.exe The catch - this needs a real floppy disk drive and a real floppy disk to work. There is also : http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010bochs.exe which runs under bochs, so doesn't need a floppy disk drive, but it is very slow. I am working on a new USB version of this as time allows, but at the moment time does not allow :-( Enjoy! Howerd
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-16 16:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b71730b5-a500-4756-b027-56cf3e7bbd28@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25243 |
On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:04:08 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > when? > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > Chuck Moore released an extremely minimal colorForth in 2001, and I host two simple distributions of this for Windows here : > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010_4v1.exe > > > > The catch - this needs a real floppy disk drive and a real floppy disk to work. > > > > There is also : > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010bochs.exe > > > > which runs under bochs, so doesn't need a floppy disk drive, but it is very slow. > > > > I am working on a new USB version of this as time allows, but at the moment time does not allow :-( > > > > Enjoy! > > Howerd nice once colorforth is running does it have tcp/ip networking? what kind of apps have you run or created?
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| From | Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-08-17 02:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5ad924fd-7f70-48fb-9f5e-04604f49322b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25273 |
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:51:16 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:04:08 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > when? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Moore released an extremely minimal colorForth in 2001, and I host two simple distributions of this for Windows here : > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010_4v1.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > The catch - this needs a real floppy disk drive and a real floppy disk to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also : > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010bochs.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > which runs under bochs, so doesn't need a floppy disk drive, but it is very slow. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a new USB version of this as time allows, but at the moment time does not allow :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Howerd > > > > nice > > > > once colorforth is running > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? Hi Gavino, > does it have tcp/ip networking? No, but it has UDP/IP. TCP is very complicated, and does not really fit in to a minimalist system. > what kind of apps have you run or created? All of the colorForth apps that I have written or collected from the interweb are in the distro - they are listed when colorForth starts. Type the name (using the keypad pattern in the bottom right hand corner ) and press the space bar. There may be other apps out there now... The challenge is to provide the functionality that everyone expects from TCP/IP, Web browsers, HTML rendering engines, Facebook etc, without the complexity. I think the best place to start is networked meta-data such as http://www.inventio.co.uk/MetaKibble.f . Then add version control, share colorForth source and a lot of apps such as email and web pages become simple. Maybe. Do you have a Windows PC to try it on? Best regards, Howerd
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-20 02:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f2711b43-8ceb-4f48-b03b-510a850e4e7e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25279 |
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:46:11 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:51:16 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:04:08 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > > > > > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Moore released an extremely minimal colorForth in 2001, and I host two simple distributions of this for Windows here : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010_4v1.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The catch - this needs a real floppy disk drive and a real floppy disk to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010bochs.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which runs under bochs, so doesn't need a floppy disk drive, but it is very slow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a new USB version of this as time allows, but at the moment time does not allow :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howerd > > > > > > > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > > > > > once colorforth is running > > > > > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > > > > > > > > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > No, but it has UDP/IP. TCP is very complicated, and does not really fit in to a minimalist system. > > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? > > All of the colorForth apps that I have written or collected from the interweb are in the distro - they are listed when colorForth starts. Type the name (using the keypad pattern in the bottom right hand corner ) and press the space bar. There may be other apps out there now... > > > > The challenge is to provide the functionality that everyone expects from TCP/IP, Web browsers, HTML rendering engines, Facebook etc, without the complexity. > > I think the best place to start is networked meta-data such as http://www.inventio.co.uk/MetaKibble.f . > > Then add version control, share colorForth source and a lot of apps such as email and web pages become simple. Maybe. > > > > Do you have a Windows PC to try it on? > > > > Best regards, > > Howerd well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed will stick to archlinux and bsd for now
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| From | Spam@ControlQ.com |
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| Date | 2013-08-20 11:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.BSF.2.00.1308201108501.20201@yoko.controlq.com> |
| In reply to | #25319 |
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed > > will stick to archlinux and bsd for now > Why don't *YOU* write a (*ANOTHER*?) GTK binding for gforth mr. genius?
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-20 15:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4e107584-ed09-4939-abb0-c3ccb8c6f97c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25323 |
On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:11:04 AM UTC-7, Sp...@ControlQ.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed > > > > > > will stick to archlinux and bsd for now > > > > > > > Why don't *YOU* write a (*ANOTHER*?) GTK binding for gforth mr. genius? gforth doesn't run standalone (I think) MRs. (misses) genius!!!
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| From | Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-08-20 10:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6edab379-f19e-4fd5-89dc-2a18cc0de715@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25319 |
On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:50:27 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:46:11 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:51:16 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:04:08 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Moore released an extremely minimal colorForth in 2001, and I host two simple distributions of this for Windows here : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010_4v1.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The catch - this needs a real floppy disk drive and a real floppy disk to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010bochs.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which runs under bochs, so doesn't need a floppy disk drive, but it is very slow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a new USB version of this as time allows, but at the moment time does not allow :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howerd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > once colorforth is running > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > > > > > > > > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > > > > > No, but it has UDP/IP. TCP is very complicated, and does not really fit in to a minimalist system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? > > > > > > All of the colorForth apps that I have written or collected from the interweb are in the distro - they are listed when colorForth starts. Type the name (using the keypad pattern in the bottom right hand corner ) and press the space bar. There may be other apps out there now... > > > > > > > > > > > > The challenge is to provide the functionality that everyone expects from TCP/IP, Web browsers, HTML rendering engines, Facebook etc, without the complexity. > > > > > > I think the best place to start is networked meta-data such as http://www.inventio.co.uk/MetaKibble.f . > > > > > > Then add version control, share colorForth source and a lot of apps such as email and web pages become simple. Maybe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a Windows PC to try it on? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Howerd > > > > well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed > > > > will stick to archlinux and bsd for now Hi Gavino, > well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed Is this because : 1. You don't have a Windows PC to run colorForth on? 2. You don't think that colorForth has a GUI? 3. You can't see a way to run apps without TCP/IP? You seem to have given up before you started... Best regards, Howerd
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-20 15:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <03957de8-9e00-4db6-adc2-f6ff0fb4e603@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25324 |
On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:38:05 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:50:27 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:46:11 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:51:16 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:04:08 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Moore released an extremely minimal colorForth in 2001, and I host two simple distributions of this for Windows here : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010_4v1.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The catch - this needs a real floppy disk drive and a real floppy disk to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cf2010bochs.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which runs under bochs, so doesn't need a floppy disk drive, but it is very slow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a new USB version of this as time allows, but at the moment time does not allow :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howerd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > once colorforth is running > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does it have tcp/ip networking? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, but it has UDP/IP. TCP is very complicated, and does not really fit in to a minimalist system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what kind of apps have you run or created? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of the colorForth apps that I have written or collected from the interweb are in the distro - they are listed when colorForth starts. Type the name (using the keypad pattern in the bottom right hand corner ) and press the space bar. There may be other apps out there now... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The challenge is to provide the functionality that everyone expects from TCP/IP, Web browsers, HTML rendering engines, Facebook etc, without the complexity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the best place to start is networked meta-data such as http://www.inventio.co.uk/MetaKibble.f . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then add version control, share colorForth source and a lot of apps such as email and web pages become simple. Maybe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a Windows PC to try it on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howerd > > > > > > > > > > > > well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed > > > > > > > > > > > > will stick to archlinux and bsd for now > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > > well until forthos gets a gui I guess im screwed > > Is this because : > > 1. You don't have a Windows PC to run colorForth on? > > 2. You don't think that colorForth has a GUI? > > 3. You can't see a way to run apps without TCP/IP? > > > > You seem to have given up before you started... > > > > Best regards, > > Howerd well the idea is to surf the net in something like firefox with forth running the pc hardware yeah so tcp/ip needed
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| From | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) |
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| Date | 2013-08-21 08:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <521480a3$0$1665$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #25327 |
In article <03957de8-9e00-4db6-adc2-f6ff0fb4e603@googlegroups.com>, the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote: >On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:38:05 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: >> On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:50:27 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: >> >> > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:46:11 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:51:16 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:04:08 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > Enjoy! >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > Hi Gavino, >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > What is this post about? Groetjes Albert -- Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters. albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst
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| From | Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-08-21 04:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5JSdnbHht5pGEInPnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #25338 |
Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote: > In article <03957de8-9e00-4db6-adc2-f6ff0fb4e603@googlegroups.com>, > the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote: [ 930 empty lines snipped ] > > What is this post about? Trim, Albert, trim. Please. :-) Andrew.
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| From | Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-08-16 04:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <44bf211b-cb9a-4d02-8989-e85c1e9438c2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25235 |
On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > when? Hi Gavino, I should also mention : http://www.inventio.co.uk/cfdos.htm which explains a bit about my colorForth distros. BTW colorForth does not yet have an ANS compatibility layer... Best regadds, Howerd
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| From | the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-20 15:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e1600bd0-da77-48d8-9baa-8e0a85334b2a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25244 |
On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:07:12 AM UTC-7, Howerd wrote: > On Friday, August 16, 2013 4:20:46 AM UTC+1, the_gavino_himself wrote: > > > when? > > > > Hi Gavino, > > > > I should also mention : > > > > http://www.inventio.co.uk/cfdos.htm > > > > which explains a bit about my colorForth distros. > > > > BTW colorForth does not yet have an ANS compatibility layer... > > > > Best regadds, > > Howerd good work my man
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