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PSC1000 Forth Chips Available.

Started bySimon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk>
First post2026-01-28 17:18 +0000
Last post2026-02-02 16:51 +0100
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  PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> - 2026-01-28 17:18 +0000
    Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-01-29 11:33 +0100
      Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> - 2026-01-29 11:57 +0000
        Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-30 08:42 -0800
      Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 13:13 +1100
      Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-01-30 17:07 +0000
        Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 12:37 -0800
          Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-02-02 02:33 +0000
            Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-02-02 07:52 -0800
              Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-02-02 16:05 +0000
        Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-01-31 09:10 +0100
          Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-01-31 18:15 +0100
            Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-02-01 16:28 +1100
              Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-02-02 16:51 +0100

#134539 — PSC1000 Forth Chips Available.

FromSimon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk>
Date2026-01-28 17:18 +0000
SubjectPSC1000 Forth Chips Available.
Message-ID<10ldgdt$lmub$1@dont-email.me>
I have 15 PSC1000 chips, unused in a waffle pack.  PSC1000A-CNXT 
0026/R60470.1 to be precise.  These are 32 bit dual stack machines which 
can be clocked at 100MHz and of course, as essentially a Chuck Moore 
design, run Forth very well.

AKA ShBoom and Ignite, these were made by Patriot Scientific.

Worth eBaying?

-- 
SS


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#134540

Fromalbert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl
Date2026-01-29 11:33 +0100
Message-ID<nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732>
In reply to#134539
In article <10ldgdt$lmub$1@dont-email.me>,
Simon Simple  <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:
>I have 15 PSC1000 chips, unused in a waffle pack.  PSC1000A-CNXT
>0026/R60470.1 to be precise.  These are 32 bit dual stack machines which
>can be clocked at 100MHz and of course, as essentially a Chuck Moore
>design, run Forth very well.
>
>AKA ShBoom and Ignite, these were made by Patriot Scientific.
>
>Worth eBaying?

Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
Truth Social that collects losses, then expands with issue
of bonds or mergers. They bankrupted Chuck Moore (remember the
villa that he was building?). Patriot extorted millions from
Intel. I hear that Moore aligns with libertarianism, interested
what he thinks now.

At the time I wanted to purchase this chip from Europe.
There was no response. Would I purchase these chips now?
I guess not, with all the RISCV and ai stuff actual.
There are certainly people interested in legacy stuff, so
put it on eBay.

Single T800 transputers doing 40 euro's, still. Also from
that era. (but they were used in industrial setting.)

>--
>SS

Groetjes Albert
-- 
The Chinese government is satisfied with its military superiority over USA.
The next 5 year plan has as primary goal to advance life expectancy
over 80 years, like Western Europe.

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#134541

FromSimon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk>
Date2026-01-29 11:57 +0000
Message-ID<10lfhvc$18nps$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#134540
On 29/01/2026 10:33, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
> In article <10ldgdt$lmub$1@dont-email.me>,
> Simon Simple  <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have 15 PSC1000 chips, unused in a waffle pack.  PSC1000A-CNXT
>> 0026/R60470.1 to be precise.  These are 32 bit dual stack machines which
>> can be clocked at 100MHz and of course, as essentially a Chuck Moore
>> design, run Forth very well.
>>
>> AKA ShBoom and Ignite, these were made by Patriot Scientific.
>>
>> Worth eBaying?
> 
> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
> Truth Social that collects losses, then expands with issue
> of bonds or mergers. They bankrupted Chuck Moore (remember the
> villa that he was building?). Patriot extorted millions from
> Intel. I hear that Moore aligns with libertarianism, interested
> what he thinks now.
> 
> At the time I wanted to purchase this chip from Europe.
> There was no response. Would I purchase these chips now?
> I guess not, with all the RISCV and ai stuff actual.
> There are certainly people interested in legacy stuff, so
> put it on eBay.
> 
> Single T800 transputers doing 40 euro's, still. Also from
> that era. (but they were used in industrial setting.)
> 
>> --
>> SS
> 
> Groetjes Albert

I don't think Patriot started off as a scam, though that's what they 
became.  There were a few iterations of ShBoom, the ones I have work 
well and the documentation is good.  They tried pushing the Java angle, 
but it's a Forth chip really.

I was a keen RTX2001 user in a real (and successful in its niche market) 
industrial controller, and the PSC1000 seemed a good next generation 
upgrade, but it was not to be.

-- 
SS


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#134546

FromBuzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com>
Date2026-01-30 08:42 -0800
Message-ID<10lin1u$287sg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#134541
On 1/29/26 3:57 AM, Simon Simple wrote:
> 
> I was a keen RTX2001 user in a real (and successful in its niche market) 
> industrial controller, and the PSC1000 seemed a good next generation 
> upgrade, but it was not to be.

Why not?

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#134543

Fromdxf <dxforth@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-30 13:13 +1100
Message-ID<697c13ca$1@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#134540
On 29/01/2026 9:33 pm, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
> ... 
> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
> Truth Social that collects losses, then expands with issue
> of bonds or mergers. They bankrupted Chuck Moore (remember the
> villa that he was building?). Patriot extorted millions from
> Intel. I hear that Moore aligns with libertarianism, interested
> what he thinks now.

Googling came up with these.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/chip-hall-of-fame-computer-cowboys-shboom-processor

https://www.design-reuse.com/news/202508488-patriot-scientific-says-it-appears-to-be-the-sole-owner-of-significant-patent-claims/

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#134547

Fromlegalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard)
Date2026-01-30 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>
In reply to#134540
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code
<nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly:

>Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
>Truth Social [...]

He lives in your head rent free.
-- 
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
            The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
     The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
  Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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#134549

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-30 12:37 -0800
Message-ID<20260130123711.00000a0b@gmail.com>
In reply to#134547
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:07:55 -0000 (UTC)
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:

> > Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps Truth
> > Social [...]  
> 
> He lives in your head rent free.

Fitting, as he has a long and well-documented history of not paying
people.

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#134553

Fromlegalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard)
Date2026-02-02 02:33 +0000
Message-ID<10lp2dk$3bosq$1@news.xmission.com>
In reply to#134549
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<20260130123711.00000a0b@gmail.com> thusly:

>On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:07:55 -0000 (UTC)
>legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:
>
>> > Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps Truth
>> > Social [...]  
>> 
>> He lives in your head rent free.
>
>Fitting, as he has a long and well-documented history of not paying
>people.

He also lives in your head rent free.
-- 
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
            The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
     The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
  Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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#134556

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-02-02 07:52 -0800
Message-ID<20260202075208.00002915@gmail.com>
In reply to#134553
On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 02:33:24 -0000 (UTC)
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:

> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

What a childish thing to say.

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#134557

Fromlegalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard)
Date2026-02-02 16:05 +0000
Message-ID<10lqi10$3eo77$1@news.xmission.com>
In reply to#134556
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<20260202075208.00002915@gmail.com> thusly:

>On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 02:33:24 -0000 (UTC)
>legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:
>
>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
>What a childish thing to say.

You're right, I should stop being so polite.
-- 
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
            The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
     The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
  Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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#134550

Fromalbert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl
Date2026-01-31 09:10 +0100
Message-ID<nnd$46f49787$5f5fb7f8@61849e6f14801bcd>
In reply to#134547
In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
>albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code
><nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly:
>
>>Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
>>Truth Social [...]
>
>He lives in your head rent free.

I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by
this.

>--
>"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
Groetjes Albert
-- 
The Chinese government is satisfied with its military superiority over USA.
The next 5 year plan has as primary goal to advance life expectancy
over 80 years, like Western Europe.

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#134551

FromHans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-31 18:15 +0100
Message-ID<nnd$3d4bab8a$6941aade@d65dfa1008646cc8>
In reply to#134550
On 31-01-2026 09:10, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
> In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>>
>> albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code
>> <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly:
>>
>>> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
>>> Truth Social [...]
>>
>> He lives in your head rent free.
> 
> I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by
> this.

It means you're obsessed with the guy - he's always present in your 
head. AKA TDS.

Hans Bezemer

> 
>> --
>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
> Groetjes Albert

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#134552

Fromdxf <dxforth@gmail.com>
Date2026-02-01 16:28 +1100
Message-ID<697ee47d$1@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#134551
On 1/02/2026 4:15 am, Hans Bezemer wrote:
> On 31-01-2026 09:10, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
>> In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>>>
>>> albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code
>>> <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly:
>>>
>>>> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
>>>> Truth Social [...]
>>>
>>> He lives in your head rent free.
>>
>> I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by
>> this.
> 
> It means you're obsessed with the guy - he's always present in your head. AKA TDS.

Forth has been doing it for decades.  I threaten him with eviction
but then he tells me how truly useful he can be :)

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#134555

FromHans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com>
Date2026-02-02 16:51 +0100
Message-ID<nnd$60bf2796$0ed0a653@ceaf996c989f293e>
In reply to#134552
On 01-02-2026 06:28, dxf wrote:
> On 1/02/2026 4:15 am, Hans Bezemer wrote:
>> On 31-01-2026 09:10, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
>>> In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>>>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>>>>
>>>> albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code
>>>> <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
>>>>> Truth Social [...]
>>>>
>>>> He lives in your head rent free.
>>>
>>> I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by
>>> this.
>>
>> It means you're obsessed with the guy - he's always present in your head. AKA TDS.
> 
> Forth has been doing it for decades.  I threaten him with eviction
> but then he tells me how truly useful he can be :)
> 
I have a whole roster of programming languages. Those b*tches live there 
rent free, but never for very long. ;-)

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