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| Started by | Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2026-01-28 17:18 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-02-02 16:51 +0100 |
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PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> - 2026-01-28 17:18 +0000
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-01-29 11:33 +0100
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> - 2026-01-29 11:57 +0000
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-30 08:42 -0800
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 13:13 +1100
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-01-30 17:07 +0000
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 12:37 -0800
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-02-02 02:33 +0000
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-02-02 07:52 -0800
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-02-02 16:05 +0000
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-01-31 09:10 +0100
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-01-31 18:15 +0100
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-02-01 16:28 +1100
Re: PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-02-02 16:51 +0100
| From | Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-01-28 17:18 +0000 |
| Subject | PSC1000 Forth Chips Available. |
| Message-ID | <10ldgdt$lmub$1@dont-email.me> |
I have 15 PSC1000 chips, unused in a waffle pack. PSC1000A-CNXT 0026/R60470.1 to be precise. These are 32 bit dual stack machines which can be clocked at 100MHz and of course, as essentially a Chuck Moore design, run Forth very well. AKA ShBoom and Ignite, these were made by Patriot Scientific. Worth eBaying? -- SS
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| From | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl |
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| Date | 2026-01-29 11:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> |
| In reply to | #134539 |
In article <10ldgdt$lmub$1@dont-email.me>, Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote: >I have 15 PSC1000 chips, unused in a waffle pack. PSC1000A-CNXT >0026/R60470.1 to be precise. These are 32 bit dual stack machines which >can be clocked at 100MHz and of course, as essentially a Chuck Moore >design, run Forth very well. > >AKA ShBoom and Ignite, these were made by Patriot Scientific. > >Worth eBaying? Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps Truth Social that collects losses, then expands with issue of bonds or mergers. They bankrupted Chuck Moore (remember the villa that he was building?). Patriot extorted millions from Intel. I hear that Moore aligns with libertarianism, interested what he thinks now. At the time I wanted to purchase this chip from Europe. There was no response. Would I purchase these chips now? I guess not, with all the RISCV and ai stuff actual. There are certainly people interested in legacy stuff, so put it on eBay. Single T800 transputers doing 40 euro's, still. Also from that era. (but they were used in industrial setting.) >-- >SS Groetjes Albert -- The Chinese government is satisfied with its military superiority over USA. The next 5 year plan has as primary goal to advance life expectancy over 80 years, like Western Europe.
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| From | Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-01-29 11:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10lfhvc$18nps$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #134540 |
On 29/01/2026 10:33, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: > In article <10ldgdt$lmub$1@dont-email.me>, > Simon Simple <nothanks@nottoday.co.uk> wrote: >> I have 15 PSC1000 chips, unused in a waffle pack. PSC1000A-CNXT >> 0026/R60470.1 to be precise. These are 32 bit dual stack machines which >> can be clocked at 100MHz and of course, as essentially a Chuck Moore >> design, run Forth very well. >> >> AKA ShBoom and Ignite, these were made by Patriot Scientific. >> >> Worth eBaying? > > Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps > Truth Social that collects losses, then expands with issue > of bonds or mergers. They bankrupted Chuck Moore (remember the > villa that he was building?). Patriot extorted millions from > Intel. I hear that Moore aligns with libertarianism, interested > what he thinks now. > > At the time I wanted to purchase this chip from Europe. > There was no response. Would I purchase these chips now? > I guess not, with all the RISCV and ai stuff actual. > There are certainly people interested in legacy stuff, so > put it on eBay. > > Single T800 transputers doing 40 euro's, still. Also from > that era. (but they were used in industrial setting.) > >> -- >> SS > > Groetjes Albert I don't think Patriot started off as a scam, though that's what they became. There were a few iterations of ShBoom, the ones I have work well and the documentation is good. They tried pushing the Java angle, but it's a Forth chip really. I was a keen RTX2001 user in a real (and successful in its niche market) industrial controller, and the PSC1000 seemed a good next generation upgrade, but it was not to be. -- SS
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| From | Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-30 08:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10lin1u$287sg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #134541 |
On 1/29/26 3:57 AM, Simon Simple wrote: > > I was a keen RTX2001 user in a real (and successful in its niche market) > industrial controller, and the PSC1000 seemed a good next generation > upgrade, but it was not to be. Why not?
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| From | dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-30 13:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <697c13ca$1@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #134540 |
On 29/01/2026 9:33 pm, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: > ... > Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps > Truth Social that collects losses, then expands with issue > of bonds or mergers. They bankrupted Chuck Moore (remember the > villa that he was building?). Patriot extorted millions from > Intel. I hear that Moore aligns with libertarianism, interested > what he thinks now. Googling came up with these. https://spectrum.ieee.org/chip-hall-of-fame-computer-cowboys-shboom-processor https://www.design-reuse.com/news/202508488-patriot-scientific-says-it-appears-to-be-the-sole-owner-of-significant-patent-claims/
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-01-30 17:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #134540 |
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code
<nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly:
>Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps
>Truth Social [...]
He lives in your head rent free.
--
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-30 12:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <20260130123711.00000a0b@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #134547 |
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:07:55 -0000 (UTC) legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote: > > Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps Truth > > Social [...] > > He lives in your head rent free. Fitting, as he has a long and well-documented history of not paying people.
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-02-02 02:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10lp2dk$3bosq$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #134549 |
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<20260130123711.00000a0b@gmail.com> thusly:
>On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:07:55 -0000 (UTC)
>legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:
>
>> > Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps Truth
>> > Social [...]
>>
>> He lives in your head rent free.
>
>Fitting, as he has a long and well-documented history of not paying
>people.
He also lives in your head rent free.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-02 07:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <20260202075208.00002915@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #134553 |
On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 02:33:24 -0000 (UTC) legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote: > [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] What a childish thing to say.
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-02-02 16:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10lqi10$3eo77$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #134556 |
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<20260202075208.00002915@gmail.com> thusly:
>On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 02:33:24 -0000 (UTC)
>legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:
>
>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
>What a childish thing to say.
You're right, I should stop being so polite.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
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| From | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl |
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| Date | 2026-01-31 09:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nnd$46f49787$5f5fb7f8@61849e6f14801bcd> |
| In reply to | #134547 |
In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote: >[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] > >albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code ><nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly: > >>Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps >>Truth Social [...] > >He lives in your head rent free. I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by this. >-- >"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> Groetjes Albert -- The Chinese government is satisfied with its military superiority over USA. The next 5 year plan has as primary goal to advance life expectancy over 80 years, like Western Europe.
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| From | Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-31 18:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nnd$3d4bab8a$6941aade@d65dfa1008646cc8> |
| In reply to | #134550 |
On 31-01-2026 09:10, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: > In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote: >> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] >> >> albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code >> <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly: >> >>> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps >>> Truth Social [...] >> >> He lives in your head rent free. > > I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by > this. It means you're obsessed with the guy - he's always present in your head. AKA TDS. Hans Bezemer > >> -- >> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> > Groetjes Albert
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| From | dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-01 16:28 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <697ee47d$1@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #134551 |
On 1/02/2026 4:15 am, Hans Bezemer wrote: > On 31-01-2026 09:10, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: >> In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote: >>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] >>> >>> albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code >>> <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly: >>> >>>> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps >>>> Truth Social [...] >>> >>> He lives in your head rent free. >> >> I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by >> this. > > It means you're obsessed with the guy - he's always present in your head. AKA TDS. Forth has been doing it for decades. I threaten him with eviction but then he tells me how truly useful he can be :)
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| From | Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-02 16:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nnd$60bf2796$0ed0a653@ceaf996c989f293e> |
| In reply to | #134552 |
On 01-02-2026 06:28, dxf wrote: > On 1/02/2026 4:15 am, Hans Bezemer wrote: >> On 31-01-2026 09:10, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: >>> In article <10liohb$2vbjq$1@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote: >>>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] >>>> >>>> albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl spake the secret code >>>> <nnd$5bb723ba$4a92beea@835e9e46b28c6732> thusly: >>>> >>>>> Patriot was, and ever is, a speculation scam, like Trumps >>>>> Truth Social [...] >>>> >>>> He lives in your head rent free. >>> >>> I'm not a native English speaker. Please explain what you mean by >>> this. >> >> It means you're obsessed with the guy - he's always present in your head. AKA TDS. > > Forth has been doing it for decades. I threaten him with eviction > but then he tells me how truly useful he can be :) > I have a whole roster of programming languages. Those b*tches live there rent free, but never for very long. ;-)
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