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| Started by | Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> |
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| First post | 2011-06-26 15:13 -0500 |
| Last post | 2011-07-02 17:52 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 313 — 44 participants |
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The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-06-26 15:13 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-27 16:13 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-06-27 15:50 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-27 16:55 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-06-27 17:23 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-27 20:09 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-29 18:59 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-30 12:49 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-02 16:38 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-07-03 11:27 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-03 17:40 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-04 18:38 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-06-30 12:25 -0700
Forth OO ( was: Re: The Lisp Curse ) Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 09:43 -0400
Re: Forth OO ( was: Re: The Lisp Curse ) Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 12:35 -0400
Re: Forth OO ( was: Re: The Lisp Curse ) John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 10:02 -0700
Re: Forth OO ( was: Re: The Lisp Curse ) Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2011-07-14 08:32 -0400
Re: Forth OO ( was: Re: The Lisp Curse ) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-14 07:10 -0700
Re: Forth OO ( was: Re: The Lisp Curse ) Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-14 09:31 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse arc@vorsicht-bissig.de - 2011-07-12 22:20 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 10:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-28 03:02 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-06-27 21:29 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-28 06:55 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-06-28 06:17 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-28 14:14 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-30 16:08 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-01 16:01 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-07-01 13:41 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-04 21:18 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 02:26 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-02 16:56 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-02 08:28 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-02 17:00 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-03 10:20 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-04 20:57 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-06 15:45 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-06 16:19 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-07-07 01:23 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse "David N. Williams" <williams@umich.edu> - 2011-07-06 21:44 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-06 19:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-07-07 10:39 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-07 13:07 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "David N. Williams" <williams@umich.edu> - 2011-07-06 21:42 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-07 10:32 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse marko <marko@marko.marko.marko> - 2011-07-07 22:09 +1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-07 09:19 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-07 14:08 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-08 10:33 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-08 05:31 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-08 17:47 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-07-08 17:23 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Spam@ControlQ.com - 2011-07-08 15:34 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-08 21:04 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-08 10:34 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-08 21:28 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-09 15:25 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-10 10:14 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-10 22:02 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-11 03:18 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 12:42 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-07-12 19:42 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-12 14:42 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-07-11 07:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-11 07:24 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-11 20:40 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 21:24 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-12 18:54 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 20:45 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-13 00:28 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 10:25 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-11 19:55 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-11 13:41 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <forthfreak@forthfiles.net> - 2011-07-11 13:45 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-07-12 21:51 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-09 16:49 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-11 04:27 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-07 14:53 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-28 11:57 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-07-29 21:54 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-07-30 18:22 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-01 12:59 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-08-02 00:07 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-01 22:58 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-08 20:44 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-07-31 10:25 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-08 16:00 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-10 07:08 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-10 18:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-11 03:05 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-11 07:37 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-08-11 10:07 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-11 08:32 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-11 08:37 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-11 18:25 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-12 01:37 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-12 07:15 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-12 08:02 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-11 08:13 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-11 18:50 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-12 01:39 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse arc <arc@vorsicht-bissig.de> - 2011-08-11 10:06 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-11 08:02 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse arc <arc@vorsicht-bissig.de> - 2011-08-12 11:49 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse arc <arc@vorsicht-bissig.de> - 2011-08-12 13:18 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-08-12 18:49 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 12:52 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-14 09:54 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 12:53 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-14 13:21 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 15:09 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-15 04:52 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-15 03:46 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-08-15 12:15 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-08-15 20:51 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-08-15 21:56 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse "Jeff M." <massung@gmail.com> - 2011-08-15 19:50 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-16 03:07 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-08-18 23:45 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse arc <arc@vorsicht-bissig.de> - 2011-08-18 11:38 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-18 07:57 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-08-15 06:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-16 05:10 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-16 03:13 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-08-18 23:31 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-19 06:09 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-20 17:14 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Jeff M." <massung@gmail.com> - 2011-08-20 20:38 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Jeff M." <massung@gmail.com> - 2011-08-20 20:49 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-20 23:39 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Jeff M." <massung@gmail.com> - 2011-08-21 00:29 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 00:57 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 01:04 -0700
Hamming numbers (was: The Lisp Curse) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-22 16:12 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201108.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-08-21 13:21 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 10:40 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-21 13:56 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 12:33 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 12:42 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 13:30 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-22 12:49 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-23 10:20 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-21 13:41 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-22 11:48 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-22 10:36 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-22 22:57 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-22 23:28 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-08-23 04:16 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-08-23 08:29 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-08-22 16:54 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 10:48 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-08-23 11:41 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-08-23 17:11 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Brad <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 10:07 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-21 13:49 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse George Hubert <georgeahubert@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-22 01:49 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-08-22 17:02 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-22 07:50 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-23 01:03 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-22 22:38 -1000
Hamming numbers (was: The Lisp Curse) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-22 15:10 +0000
Re: Hamming numbers Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-23 00:09 -0700
Re: Hamming numbers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-23 13:09 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse vandys@vsta.org - 2011-08-19 17:41 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-19 18:05 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-08-19 13:53 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2011-08-19 13:15 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-19 15:39 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-19 19:49 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-19 17:41 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-20 03:54 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-08-20 15:20 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-21 14:41 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-22 11:47 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse coos haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2011-08-22 20:30 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-22 15:22 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-22 23:34 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-22 22:48 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-08-20 08:55 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-12 10:49 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-13 14:03 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-14 07:57 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-12 09:51 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-13 13:45 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-13 08:08 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-08-14 02:56 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-08-13 04:35 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Keith H Duggar <duggar@alum.mit.edu> - 2011-08-12 07:53 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-13 14:13 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-13 13:59 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-14 14:46 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-17 01:31 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-06-28 03:24 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-06-28 19:55 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-29 06:30 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-29 13:49 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-29 14:02 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-29 18:16 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-06-29 15:45 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-29 19:45 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-06-29 22:08 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-30 10:07 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse coos haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2011-06-30 20:44 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-30 18:08 -0400
Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-06-30 20:07 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-06-30 22:12 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-01 16:01 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-07-01 17:59 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) The Beez <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2011-07-01 16:33 -0700
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-02 18:37 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk - 2011-07-01 06:07 -0500
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-01 16:00 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-01 14:06 +0000
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-07-01 14:57 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-02 16:55 +0000
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-01 16:04 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-02 11:26 -0700
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) coos haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2011-07-02 22:10 +0200
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-02 14:36 -0700
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-07-02 21:36 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-02 18:25 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-03 10:53 -0700
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> - 2011-07-04 23:41 -0400
Re: Counted vs. terminated strings (Re: The Lisp Curse) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 01:02 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-07-02 22:46 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2011-07-18 01:25 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-06-30 14:44 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-30 23:24 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-07-03 12:04 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-03 20:24 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-04 02:21 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-07-04 16:02 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Tarkin <tarkin000@gmail.com> - 2011-07-04 10:21 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-04 11:13 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Tarkin <tarkin000@gmail.com> - 2011-07-04 12:31 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-04 15:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-07-04 13:23 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 01:45 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-05 11:34 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 05:34 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-05 14:28 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 09:39 -0700
OT: full virtualization (was: The Lisp Curse) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-07 15:36 +0000
Re: OT: full virtualization Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-07 13:17 -0500
Re: OT: full virtualization Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-08 04:53 -0700
Re: OT: full virtualization anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-08 17:11 +0000
Re: OT: full virtualization Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-08 12:41 -0700
Re: OT: full virtualization (was: The Lisp Curse) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-08 04:34 -0700
Re: OT: full virtualization (was: The Lisp Curse) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-10 16:03 +0000
Re: OT: full virtualization (was: The Lisp Curse) Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-10 13:06 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-07-07 00:11 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-07-06 12:47 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-07 10:07 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Tarkin <tarkin000@gmail.com> - 2011-07-07 13:00 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-04 12:40 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-04 11:15 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-04 15:53 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-07-05 10:16 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 02:23 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-05 09:54 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-07-05 22:33 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-05 16:28 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 16:18 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-04 15:03 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-07-05 00:20 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-05 11:35 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-07-05 09:46 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-07-05 23:13 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-05 15:31 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk - 2011-07-07 04:38 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-05 19:21 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-07-05 14:57 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-07-05 20:48 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-07-06 07:38 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-06 09:46 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk - 2011-07-07 04:38 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-07 10:41 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-07-07 09:12 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-06 09:53 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-07-06 21:45 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-07 14:48 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-07-07 20:20 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse coos haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2011-07-08 04:39 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 23:22 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-07-12 19:35 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-07-13 23:37 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-07-12 05:10 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-12 03:44 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-07-13 22:06 +0200
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-14 04:01 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk - 2011-07-07 04:38 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-03 07:34 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Spam@ControlQ.com - 2011-06-29 13:25 -0400
Forth as implementation language vandys@vsta.org - 2011-06-29 18:27 +0000
Re: Forth as implementation language Spam@ControlQ.com - 2011-06-29 17:50 -0400
Re: Forth as implementation language vandys@vsta.org - 2011-06-29 22:45 +0000
Re: Forth as implementation language Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-30 13:04 +0100
Re: Forth as implementation language Spam@ControlQ.com - 2011-06-30 11:42 -0400
Re: Forth as implementation language "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-30 13:12 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-06-29 08:38 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse Spam@ControlQ.com - 2011-06-29 18:01 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-06-29 12:50 -1000
Re: The Lisp Curse stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-06-30 08:15 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Spam@ControlQ.com - 2011-07-03 15:22 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-06-30 13:09 +0100
Re: The Lisp Curse "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-29 18:31 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-06-29 23:01 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-07-01 09:42 -0500
Re: The Lisp Curse Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-07-01 18:49 +0000
Re: The Lisp Curse Mentifex <mentifex@myuw.net> - 2011-06-29 15:41 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse "Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council" <fp-eotbp-gc@ibm.com> - 2011-06-29 19:16 -0400
Re: The Lisp Curse Mark Wills <forthfreak@forthfiles.net> - 2011-06-30 00:34 -0700
Re: The Lisp Curse anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-07-02 17:52 +0000
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> |
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| Date | 2011-07-07 14:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <iv4v2o$d3l$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #3840 |
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:df88fc8cfd40b995dfa513b2f4813f63@dizum.com... > "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> wrote: > > > That's intellectual dishonesty. I quoted K&R. It says it's unecessary. > > No, they show cases and explain where it's *better* to use goto. > Better? I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion from what they said. I see numerous disclaimers saying it's unecessary, but here are some examples of it's use since it's part of the language. > Nobody says > goto is necessary in C, but K&R *did* give an example where > it's better to use goto than not to use it. > 1) "... the goto statement is never necessary ..." 2) " ... it is almost always easy to write code without it. " 3) "Code involving a goto can always be written without one." 4) "... it does seem that goto statements should be used rarely, if at all" Don't all those state GOTOs are unecessary? The first even uses "never necessary". After they stated it four time in a row, I'm not sure what I could've misunderstood here. Rod Pemberton
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| From | Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-07 20:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2011070720205994579-chrishinsley@gmailcom> |
| In reply to | #3865 |
On 2011-07-07 19:48:06 +0100, Rod Pemberton said: > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message > news:df88fc8cfd40b995dfa513b2f4813f63@dizum.com... >> "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> wrote: >> >>> That's intellectual dishonesty. I quoted K&R. It says it's unecessary. >> >> No, they show cases and explain where it's *better* to use goto. >> > > Better? I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion from what they said. > I see numerous disclaimers saying it's unecessary, but here are some > examples of it's use since it's part of the language. > >> Nobody says >> goto is necessary in C, but K&R *did* give an example where >> it's better to use goto than not to use it. >> > > 1) "... the goto statement is never necessary ..." > > 2) " ... it is almost always easy to write code without it. " > > 3) "Code involving a goto can always be written without one." > > 4) "... it does seem that goto statements should be used rarely, if at all" > > Don't all those state GOTOs are unecessary? The first even uses "never > necessary". After they stated it four time in a row, I'm not sure what I > could've misunderstood here. > > > Rod Pemberton Rod, their useing words ! Got to be careful about that ! :) Chris
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| From | coos haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> |
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| Date | 2011-07-08 04:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vw26hvl2php9.1qmwi4k5fwtgx$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #3869 |
Op Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:20:59 +0100 schreef Chris Hinsley: <snip> > Rod, their useing words ! Got to be careful about that ! :) > Chris, My motherlanguage is not English, could you tell me what you just wrote? 1) They're using words 2) Their use of words 3) There they are using words 4) ... -- Coos CHForth, 16 bit DOS applications http://home.hccnet.nl/j.j.haak/forth.html
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| From | Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-12 23:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2011071223222374601-chrishinsley@gmailcom> |
| In reply to | #3877 |
On 2011-07-08 03:39:03 +0100, coos haak said: > Op Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:20:59 +0100 schreef Chris Hinsley: > > <snip> >> Rod, their useing words ! Got to be careful about that ! :) >> > Chris, > > My motherlanguage is not English, could you tell me what you just wrote? > 1) They're using words > 2) Their use of words > 3) There they are using words > 4) ... Pardon my incredibly bad spelling and typeing ! And my bad attempt at Forth hummor ! :( Chris
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> |
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| Date | 2011-07-12 19:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ivilpd$n0k$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #4058 |
"Chris Hinsley" <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2011071223222374601-chrishinsley@gmailcom... > On 2011-07-08 03:39:03 +0100, coos haak said: > > Op Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:20:59 +0100 schreef Chris Hinsley: > > > > <snip> > >> Rod, their useing words ! Got to be careful about that ! :) > >> > > Chris, > > > > My motherlanguage is not English, could you tell me what you just wrote? > > 1) They're using words I think he meant #1. He was making a joke. > > 2) Their use of words > > 3) There they are using words > > 4) ... > > Pardon my incredibly bad spelling and typeing ! > > And my bad attempt at Forth hummor ! :( > typeing-> typing hummur-> humor (American) or humour (British) For spelling, you can just type in the word in Google's or Yahoo's search box, and they'll suggest corrections: http://search.yahoo.com/web http://www.google.com/ Of course, both British (or United Kingdom) and American spellings of English words come up as correct. Australian, New Zealand, and Canadian spellings probably do also. You can try Babelfish or Google Translate to translate between different languages: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ http://translate.google.com/ In general, Americans have moved on to easier spellings for English versus the British. American British humor humour behavior behaviour while whilst among amongst epilog epilogue prolog prologue truck lorry hood bonnett trunk boot etc. A boot in America is something you wear on your foot that goes above the ankle to protect your feet from snow, mud, or water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot The words football and soccer in America usually mean the opposite from the rest of the English speaking world. "Football" is what most of the world calls the game we call soccer. Football to us is the more violent game with the helmets, body padding, tackling, ... which is America's favorite sport. What we call soccer in America (pictures): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football What we call football in America (pictures): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football Rod Pemberton
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| From | Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-07-13 23:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2011071323372932884-chrishinsley@gmailcom> |
| In reply to | #4063 |
On 2011-07-13 00:35:23 +0100, Rod Pemberton said: > "Chris Hinsley" <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:2011071223222374601-chrishinsley@gmailcom... >> On 2011-07-08 03:39:03 +0100, coos haak said: >>> Op Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:20:59 +0100 schreef Chris Hinsley: >>> >>> <snip> >>>> Rod, their useing words ! Got to be careful about that ! :) >>>> >>> Chris, >>> >>> My motherlanguage is not English, could you tell me what you just wrote? >>> 1) They're using words > > I think he meant #1. He was making a joke. > >>> 2) Their use of words >>> 3) There they are using words >>> 4) ... >> >> Pardon my incredibly bad spelling and typeing ! >> >> And my bad attempt at Forth hummor ! :( >> > > typeing-> typing > hummur-> humor (American) or humour (British) I do and always have had trouble writing words, I stare at a word and just can't see that it's spelt wrong. On important documents I get great help from the spell checker. I'll try Unisons built in checker for a while. See how it shapes up. It's never effected my coding though ! Chris
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| From | Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> |
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| Date | 2011-07-12 05:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <3ae303ce088bcf1604215f7ef375c06c@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
| In reply to | #3865 |
"Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> wrote:
> > No, they show cases and explain where it's *better* to use goto.
> >
>
> Better? I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion from what they said.
> I see numerous disclaimers saying it's unecessary, but here are some
> examples of it's use since it's part of the language.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
p. 62, section 3.9 Goto's and Labels
.
Nonetheless, we will suggest a few situations where goto's may find a
place. The most common use is to abandon processing in some deeply nested
structure, such as breaking out of two loops at once. The break statement
cannot be used directly since it leaves only the innermost loop.
Thus:
for ( ... )
for ( ... ) {
...
if (disaster)
goto error;
}
...
error:
clean up the mess
This organization is handy if the error-handling code is non-trivial, and if
errors can occur in several places. A label has the same form as a variable
name, and is followed by a colon. It can be attached to any statement in the
same function as the goto.
As another example, consider the problem of finding the first negative
element in a two-dimensional array. (Multi-dimensional arrays are discussed
in Chapter 5.) One possibility is
for (i = 0; i < N; i++)
for (j = 0; j < M; j++)
if (v[i][j] < 0)
goto found;
/* didn't find */
...
found:
/* found one at position i, j */
>From "The C Programming Language", Brian W. Kernighan * Dennis M. Ritchie
Copyright 1978, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comments like "where goto's may find a place" and "this organization is
handy" strongly suggest there are valid, even good reasons to use goto in C.
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| From | Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-07-12 03:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <O-6dnSBOtbz7lIHTnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #4014 |
Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > p. 62, section 3.9 Goto's and Labels > > . > Nonetheless, we will suggest a few situations where goto's may find a > place. These misplaced apostrophes are really irritating. Surely they aren't in your printed copy: they aren't in mine. Andrew.
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| From | Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> |
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| Date | 2011-07-13 22:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <a357dadd97b34e4735bcae10504ac8f4@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
| In reply to | #4033 |
Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote: > Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > p. 62, section 3.9 Goto's and Labels > > > > . > > Nonetheless, we will suggest a few situations where goto's may find a > > place. > > These misplaced apostrophes are really irritating. Surely they aren't > in your printed copy: they aren't in mine. > > Andrew. I quoted the text accurately (you conveniently omitted the citation) and I cited the book and copyright date from whence it came, to wit(less): > From "The C Programming Language", Brian W. Kernighan * Dennis M. Ritchie > Copyright 1978, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc. Andrew I must point out you have a nasty habit of insinuating yourself into other people's conversations just for the purpose of arguing with people concerning things that don't involve you and that you have no knowledge of. That's very nasty business and I think you should learn some manners. I must also point out you didn't take issue with anyone else's English in this thread. Haven't you been spanked enough lately? Why do you make yourself such an easy target?
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| From | Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-07-14 04:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jYydnRR5B6bqLYPTnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #4124 |
Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: > Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote: > >> Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201107.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote: >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > p. 62, section 3.9 Goto's and Labels >> > >> > . >> > Nonetheless, we will suggest a few situations where goto's may find a >> > place. >> >> These misplaced apostrophes are really irritating. Surely they aren't >> in your printed copy: they aren't in mine. > > I quoted the text accurately (you conveniently omitted the citation) > and I cited the book and copyright date from whence it came, to > wit(less): > >> From "The C Programming Language", Brian W. Kernighan * Dennis M. Ritchie >> Copyright 1978, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc. > > Andrew I must point out you have a nasty habit of insinuating > yourself into other people's conversations just for the purpose of > arguing with people concerning things that don't involve you and > that you have no knowledge of. For goodness' sake, if you want to have a private conversation, take it to email. I was quibbling about an apparently incorrect quotation that you made *in public*. > That's very nasty business and I think you should learn some > manners. I must also point out you didn't take issue with anyone > else's English in this thread. I don't complain about anyone else's grammar; I make plenty of mistakes myself. Bad quotations, however, are another matter, because they misrepresent a third party. At least I thought it was a bad quotation, but perhaps those apostrophes really are in your early edition. In which case, thank you for the clarification. > Haven't you been spanked enough lately? Why do you make yourself > such an easy target? Huh? Andrew.
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| From | kenney@cix.compulink.co.uk |
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| Date | 2011-07-07 04:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <cqidnXdlseA444jTnZ2dnUVZ7tKdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #3811 |
In article <iuvb1t$b78$1@speranza.aioe.org>, do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm (Rod Pemberton) wrote: > I lived through it. You're correct that the "world" didn't start > with the 8080, it all started with the 6502. The 6502 was the first > microprocessor that had the major breakthrough that brought > inexpensive and increasingly faster microprocessor based computing to > the masses: pipelining. From what I can remember Motorolla was fairly late on the micro scene being like Zillog a firm set up by people leaving an existing company. I do have the patience to look up what Texas and other companies produced but Intel started with the 4004, followed up by the 8008 and then the 8080. The first micro computer available to the masses was the Altair which used an 8080. CPM systems became the common business micro and they used the 8080 as well. I do not have the dates for Japanese manufacturers but I believe Tandy ended up with most of the US market for home computing using a Z80. Apple machines were a lot more expensive and did not really take off until Visicalc arrived. By the way while Acorn did use the 6502 the original BBC specification for the BBC computer specified a Z80 and one of the first add on boards for the BBC was a Z80 one. Ken Young
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| From | Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-07-03 07:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7N-dnTSZ85Vv_I3TnZ2dnUVZ7vednZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #3628 |
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > > Why? C is successful because it was used to write two major, bad operating > systems. If you want to write code on those systems then you need to use C > because all the header files and system calls are set up for C. Why? Lots of people don't. All you have to do is follow te ABI. > If you look at the IBM mainframe the operating system is written in > assembler. All the header files and system calls are in assembler. MVS? Written in PL/S, surely. Andrew.
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| From | Spam@ControlQ.com |
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| Date | 2011-06-29 13:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.BSF.2.00.1106291251580.79427@yoko.controlq.com> |
| In reply to | #3622 |
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Rod Pemberton wrote: > > I've never programmed in Forth either. I am implementing an interpreter for > it. At this point, I think one _must_ implement their own version to That is considered anathema here. The Forth nomenclatura would prefer that you purchase or download an eval 'modern' forth, and learn the language prior to *NEVER* implementing your own. *I*, on the other hand agree with you, and I've implemented at least 3 C based Forths over the years. > understand some of the concepts. The fact that the Forth community uses I agree ... by implementing the feature, you at least understand the mechanics, and a knowledge of how to apply it in an application is not a stretch from there. > non-standard language, i.e., non Comp. Sci. language, for everything, > obscures how much of the functionality works. The fact that not much seems > to be well documented as to implementation of Forth does so also. You (or It was not always so. Back in the FIG days, reference implementations were provided for every micro architecture which was popular, and "verbatim" re-implementations based upon prior reference platforms kept Forth relatively static. Subsequent standards work has tended away from implementation details, not only for portability, but also to remove the handcuffs for the avante guarde to innovate ... probably a good thing (TM). My miniforth (a C based implementation) is an attempt to take the classic fig model, and provide a degree of portability. From that base, I'll be adding the platform and language features which will make it a useful production scripting language with a small memory footprint ... for *ME* anyways. I suspect that in the end, I will make no attempt to comply with any standard, except perhaps the base wordset. Good luck with your implementation, and if you have pointers to your work, they would be appreciated ... (as a BoF) ... http://www.ControlQ.com/blob/wordpress/?p=352 Rob Sciuk.
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| From | vandys@vsta.org |
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| Date | 2011-06-29 18:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Forth as implementation language |
| Message-ID | <97193tFsmoU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3635 |
Spam@controlq.com wrote: > My miniforth (a C based implementation) is an attempt to take the classic > fig model, and provide a degree of portability. Do you think Forth is a good language? Or just an easy language to implement? If the former, why aren't you implementing *in* Forth? Even if you had to use some throw-away C code to bootstrap (hell, I used straight assembly code for my own bootstrap of ForthOS), wouldn't you at this point be happily hosted on your own metacompiler? -- Andy Valencia Home page: http://www.vsta.org/andy/ To contact me: http://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html
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| From | Spam@ControlQ.com |
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| Date | 2011-06-29 17:50 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Forth as implementation language |
| Message-ID | <alpine.BSF.2.00.1106291654510.79427@yoko.controlq.com> |
| In reply to | #3638 |
Hi, Vandy, On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, vandys@vsta.org wrote: > Date: 29 Jun 2011 18:27:10 GMT > From: vandys@vsta.org > Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth > Subject: Forth as implementation language > > Spam@controlq.com wrote: >> My miniforth (a C based implementation) is an attempt to take the classic >> fig model, and provide a degree of portability. > > Do you think Forth is a good language? Or just an easy language to > implement? Not necessarily, at least not out of the box, but add a few words which pertain to your problem domain, and it becomes a great language. When I took my first undergrad programming course in FORTRAN, the first couple of weeks were spent using a "mini" assembler like interpreter ... just to avoid "big syntax", and to get the basics across. Forth might have been a better choice for teaching undergrads, but this was back in the 70's, and Forth hadn't yet hit the radar screens at the University I attended (though it eventually did, and there was even a Forth Users group headed by Nick Solntseff). The "factoring" techniques historically ascribed to good forth coding are an excellant way to code in any language, and while I have scripted in Tcl, python, bash, awk (and toyed with Ruby, Perl, Rexx etc), I keep coming back to Forth as a "pet" language. I suppose it is a great language, and as Elizabeth made reference a day or so ago, it offers up its internals to the end user ... useful for the low level coder, but very scary to the Erlang, Occam and Haskell types ... > If the former, why aren't you implementing *in* Forth? You know, that's a very good question. What do you think the minimal wordset to bootstrap a hosted Forth consists of? I've been meaning to write an assembler in my C based forth, and bootstrap from there ... time permitting ... but unfortunately, it doesn't -- hence I proceeded *in* C. Once I had the basic forth framework in C, it was arguably simpler/faster to add a bunch of words in C, and so I never analysed what was the minimal subset required to bootstrap a "forth". > Even if you had to use some throw-away C code to bootstrap (hell, I used > straight assembly code for my own bootstrap of ForthOS), wouldn't you at > this point be happily hosted on your own metacompiler? exactly ... and I just might start in assembler for the AVR platform, it being so different from a Von-Neumann architecture. I'd ask what words were required to bootstrap your ForthOS, but as it was a native implementation on x86 "iron", much of the boot code would likely have been in assembler, and the comparison would not have been a fair one ... also, I recall you used some BIOS i/o routines (no?). Still, I regard ForthOS as a remarkable effort ... and all the more notable by the fact that it *was* a native implementation. My miniforth runs "native" on ARM, and Nintendo DS (homebrew) ... and I'm planning to use u-boot to run "native" on an 8core PPC Soc in the near term -- but I've got some i/o words to write first 8-). As for the Hosted version of Miniforth, it runs on Windows, Mac/OSX, Linux, 3 BSD's and on intel 32/64, AMD, Arm, PPC and HP-PA. (Pretty much anything I have a compiler for and access to -- one file, one compile and voila!). Am I a purist? Not by a long shot, but I've got a version of Forth on every single computing device I own -- and I *DO* frequently code in forth. Cheers, Rob Sciuk
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| From | vandys@vsta.org |
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| Date | 2011-06-29 22:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Forth as implementation language |
| Message-ID | <971o94Fi1oU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3648 |
Spam@controlq.com wrote: >> If the former, why aren't you implementing *in* Forth? > You know, that's a very good question. It's great to see you open to the concept! > ... also, I recall you used some BIOS i/o routines (no?). No, ForthOS talks directly to the hardware. > Am I a purist? Not by a long shot, but I've got a version of Forth on > every single computing device I own -- and I *DO* frequently code in > forth. You should go ahead and shoot for a metacompiler, IMHO. It'll take your Forth system to another level, if my own experience is any guide. Regards, Andy Valencia Home page: http://www.vsta.org/andy/ To contact me: http://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html
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| From | Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-06-30 13:04 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Forth as implementation language |
| Message-ID | <8NGdnd_kCpj4-5HTnZ2dnUVZ7r6dnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #3648 |
On 29/06/2011 22:50, Spam@ControlQ.com wrote: > > > Hi, Vandy, > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, vandys@vsta.org wrote: > >> Date: 29 Jun 2011 18:27:10 GMT >> From: vandys@vsta.org >> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth >> Subject: Forth as implementation language >> >> Spam@controlq.com wrote: >>> My miniforth (a C based implementation) is an attempt to take the >>> classic >>> fig model, and provide a degree of portability. >> >> Do you think Forth is a good language? Or just an easy language to >> implement? > > Not necessarily, at least not out of the box, but add a few words which > pertain to your problem domain, and it becomes a great language. > > When I took my first undergrad programming course in FORTRAN, the first > couple of weeks were spent using a "mini" assembler like interpreter ... > just to avoid "big syntax", and to get the basics across. Forth might > have been a better choice for teaching undergrads, but this was back in > the 70's, and Forth hadn't yet hit the radar screens at the University I > attended (though it eventually did, and there was even a Forth Users > group headed by Nick Solntseff). > > The "factoring" techniques historically ascribed to good forth coding > are an excellant way to code in any language, and while I have scripted > in Tcl, python, bash, awk (and toyed with Ruby, Perl, Rexx etc), I keep > coming back to Forth as a "pet" language. I suppose it is a great > language, and as Elizabeth made reference a day or so ago, it offers up > its internals to the end user ... useful for the low level coder, but > very scary to the Erlang, Occam and Haskell types ... > >> If the former, why aren't you implementing *in* Forth? > > You know, that's a very good question. What do you think the minimal > wordset to bootstrap a hosted Forth consists of? I've been meaning to > write an assembler in my C based forth, and bootstrap from there ... > time permitting ... but unfortunately, it doesn't -- hence I proceeded > *in* C. > > Once I had the basic forth framework in C, it was arguably > simpler/faster to add a bunch of words in C, and so I never analysed > what was the minimal subset required to bootstrap a "forth". > >> Even if you had to use some throw-away C code to bootstrap (hell, I >> used straight assembly code for my own bootstrap of ForthOS), wouldn't >> you at this point be happily hosted on your own metacompiler? > > exactly ... and I just might start in assembler for the AVR platform, it > being so different from a Von-Neumann architecture. > > I'd ask what words were required to bootstrap your ForthOS, but as it > was a native implementation on x86 "iron", much of the boot code would > likely have been in assembler, and the comparison would not have been a > fair one ... also, I recall you used some BIOS i/o routines (no?). > Still, I regard ForthOS as a remarkable effort ... and all the more > notable by the fact that it *was* a native implementation. > > My miniforth runs "native" on ARM, and Nintendo DS (homebrew) ... and > I'm planning to use u-boot to run "native" on an 8core PPC Soc in the > near term -- but I've got some i/o words to write first 8-). As for the > Hosted version of Miniforth, it runs on Windows, Mac/OSX, Linux, 3 BSD's > and on intel 32/64, AMD, Arm, PPC and HP-PA. (Pretty much anything I > have a compiler for and access to -- one file, one compile and voila!). > > Am I a purist? Not by a long shot, but I've got a version of Forth on > every single computing device I own -- and I *DO* frequently code in forth. > > Cheers, > Rob Sciuk Dr. Ting spent a long time evaluating the minimum number of words to bootstrap a Forth. I think it was about 30. That's what eForth was/became IIRC.
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| From | Spam@ControlQ.com |
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| Date | 2011-06-30 11:42 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Forth as implementation language |
| Message-ID | <alpine.BSF.2.00.1106301142150.55224@yoko.controlq.com> |
| In reply to | #3667 |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Mark Wills wrote: > Dr. Ting spent a long time evaluating the minimum number of words to > bootstrap a Forth. I think it was about 30. That's what eForth was/became > IIRC. So, which 30? Pointers?
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> |
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| Date | 2011-06-30 13:12 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Forth as implementation language |
| Message-ID | <iuias9$1r2$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #3671 |
<Spam@ControlQ.com> wrote in message news:alpine.BSF.2.00.1106301142150.55224@yoko.controlq.com... > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Mark Wills wrote: > > Dr. Ting spent a long time evaluating the minimum number of words to > > bootstrap a Forth. I think it was about 30. That's what eForth was/became > > IIRC. > > So, which 30? Pointers? > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/msg/10872cb68edcb526 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/msg/7912fa3634b2bd06 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/msg/3caa5b2e62f53d7a Rod Pemberton
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| From | Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> |
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| Date | 2011-06-29 08:38 -1000 |
| Message-ID | <fq-dnakv5o6r7JbTnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #3635 |
On 6/29/11 7:25 AM, Spam@ControlQ.com wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Rod Pemberton wrote: > >> >> I've never programmed in Forth either. I am implementing an >> interpreter for >> it. At this point, I think one _must_ implement their own version to > > That is considered anathema here. The Forth nomenclatura would prefer > that you purchase or download an eval 'modern' forth, and learn the > language prior to *NEVER* implementing your own. *I*, on the other hand > agree with you, and I've implemented at least 3 C based Forths over the > years. That is so incorrect as to be laughable. Not only is DIY Forth not "anathema" here, a significant number of regular posters have either done their own or are in the process of doing so. My position has been that if you want to implement your own Forth for whatever reason, you should at least *learn* Forth by using an existing modern Forth and developing a working ability using existing books (preferably more modern books than Starting Forth) and tutorials before starting the project. Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada) 800-55-FORTH FORTH Inc. +1 310.999.6784 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90045 http://www.forth.com "Forth-based products and Services for real-time applications since 1973." ==================================================
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