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Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word?

From minforth <minforth@gmx.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word?
Date 2026-04-28 14:01 +0200
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Am 28.04.2026 um 13:40 schrieb peter:
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:39:11 -0500
> Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/23/26 8:14 PM, dxf wrote:
>>> On 24/04/2026 9:11 am, Buzz McCool wrote:
>>>> $ gforth
>>>> Gforth 0.7.9_20260324
>>>> ...
>>>> Type `help' for basic help
>>>>
>>>> 1.9e floor  ok f:1
>>>> f. 1.  ok
>>>>
>>>> 1.9e fceil
>>>> *the terminal*:6:6: error: Undefined word
>>>> 1.9e >>>fceil<<<
>>>> Backtrace:
>>>> /usr/share/gforth/0.7.9_20260324/kernel/recognizer.fs:124:35:  0 $7DFF9A013568 throw
>>>
>>> : fceil ( r1 -- r2 )  fnegate floor fnegate ;  ok
>>> 1.9e fceil f. 2.  ok
>>> -1.9e fceil f. -1.  ok
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You may want to check the behavior of FLOOR and FCEIL with IEEE special
>> values, if your Forth system supports them. The following code should
>> run on both 32-bit and 64-bit Forth systems, with or without a separate
>> fp stack. Some of the tests may be redundant.
>>
>> --
>> KM
>>
>> \ ============
>> \ Requires ttester.4th
>>
>> DECIMAL
>> 0e fconstant F=ZERO
>> HEX
>>
>> \ Make an IEEE 754 double precision floating point value from
>> \ the specified bits for the sign, binary fraction, and exponent.
>> \ Return the fp value and error code with the following meaning:
>> \   0  no error
>> \   1  exponent out of range
>> \   2  fraction out of range
>> fvariable temp
>>
>> : MAKE-IEEE-DFLOAT ( signbit udfraction uexp -- r nerror )
>>       dup 800 u< invert IF 2drop 2drop F=ZERO 1 EXIT THEN
>>       14 lshift 3 pick 1F lshift or >r
>>       dup 100000 u< invert IF
>>         r> 2drop 2drop F=ZERO 2 EXIT
>>       THEN
>>       r> or [ temp 4 + ] literal L! temp L!
>>       drop temp df@ 0 ;
>>
>>
>> \ Constants representing  -0e -INF  +INF  -NAN  +NAN
>>
>> true 0 0 0 make-ieee-dfloat [IF] fdrop [ELSE] fconstant F=-ZERO [THEN]
>> true 0 0 7FF make-ieee-dfloat [IF] fdrop [ELSE] fconstant -INF [THEN]
>>
>> [DEFINED] -INF [IF] -INF fnegate fconstant +INF [THEN]
>> true  1 0 7FF make-ieee-dfloat [IF] fdrop [ELSE] fconstant -NAN [THEN]
>> [DEFINED] -NAN [IF] -NAN fnegate fconstant +NAN [THEN]
>>
>> DECIMAL
>>
>> : FCEIL ( F: r1 -- r2 ) FNEGATE FLOOR FNEGATE ;
>>
>> \ Testing F= for positive and negative special values
>> t{ +INF -INF F= -> false }t
>> t{ +NAN -NAN F= -> true }t
>> t{ F=ZERO F=-ZERO F= -> true }t
> 
> How is your F= defined?
> I see that it returns true for comparing two nans.
> Shouldn't that return false in IEEE fp math?
F= is undefined in standard Forth. However common sense should prevail
indeed, or IOW the principle of least surprise.

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GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-23 16:11 -0700
  Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 11:14 +1000
    Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-24 08:29 -0700
    Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2026-04-27 17:39 -0500
      Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? peter <peter.noreply@tin.it> - 2026-04-28 13:40 +0200
        Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2026-04-28 14:01 +0200
        Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2026-04-28 19:25 -0500
          Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-04-29 11:20 +1000
            Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2026-04-29 08:30 -0500
              Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2026-04-29 20:15 -0500
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            Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2026-04-30 20:49 -0500
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                Re: Special memory access words Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 13:28 +0200
              Re: GNU Forth has a floating point floor word, but not floating point ceiling word? peter <peter.noreply@tin.it> - 2026-05-01 10:18 +0200

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