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Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry

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Date 2013-05-19 19:34 -0700
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Subject Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry
From Steve <nospam275@gmail.com>

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rickman wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 12:35 PM, Brad Eckert wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:43:23 AM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> >>
> >> I have hired and managed many programmers and tech writers. A programmer
> >> who cannot document code coherently is useless, because that code will
> >> be unmaintainable. And it's my experience that everyone, in technical
> >> fields as well as less-technical ones, is more productive in a team if
> >> he/she is able to communicate well.
> >>
> > What if you have a friggin genius who doesn't write well? I work with a guy like that. I just generate the documentation and run it past him to make sure I got it right.
>
> That is the type of smart management that you don't see very often.
> Many managers are artifacts of the Peter Principle.  They were good at
> their job and got promoted into management where they know little.  As a
> result, they expect other engineers to be good in the ways they were
> good.  In other words, they evaluate workers against a perfect engineer
> model.
>
> Instead they should consider the strengths and weaknesses of each worker
> and try to make them as functional as possible, even if it means giving
> the work they are bad at to others.  Engineers are often compared to
> tools.  But it is odd that while people work with tools by learning
> their strengths and weakness and using them accordingly, they often
> don't do the same for people.
>

I agree.


Steve.

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Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-05-05 12:56 -0700
  Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-05-06 05:19 -0500
    Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2013-05-06 04:01 -0700
      Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-05-06 09:48 -0500
        Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-06 11:08 -0400
          Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-05-06 17:21 -0500
            Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2013-05-06 22:58 -0700
            Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-07 21:04 -0400
              Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-05-08 03:02 -0500
          Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotq.cpm> - 2013-05-09 20:08 -0400
            Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2013-05-10 05:03 -0700
            Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-10 11:21 -0400
              Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotq.cpm> - 2013-05-11 15:53 -0400
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-11 21:07 -0400
        Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2013-05-06 08:29 -0700
    Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotq.cpm> - 2013-05-09 20:08 -0400
      Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-10 11:39 -0400
        Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotq.cpm> - 2013-05-11 15:56 -0400
          Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-11 21:14 -0400
            Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-05-12 12:29 +0000
              Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-05-12 08:33 -1000
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotq.cpm> - 2013-05-15 05:23 -0400
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-05-15 07:43 -1000
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-05-15 14:11 -0500
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2013-05-15 11:41 -1000
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 09:35 -0700
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 13:50 -0400
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry Steve <nospam275@gmail.com> - 2013-05-19 19:34 -0700
                Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2013-05-19 23:41 -0700
          Re: offtopic - Critical of the Computer Industry dirk.bruehl@usa.net - 2013-05-17 08:53 -0700

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