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Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for....

From Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid>
Subject Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for....
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
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Date 2012-07-20 11:24 -0500

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Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> In article <AoSdnRyPuOGE15XNnZ2dnUVZ8vWdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
> Andrew Haley  <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote:
>>Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>> In article <wbOdnWwHX40ca5rNnZ2dnUVZ8lSdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
>>> Andrew Haley  <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote:
>>>>Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Sure, but if your Forth was written in Forth you wouldn't have to do
>>>>any of this stuff.
>>>
>>> A fair comparison would be to require that the result is a windows
>>> executable, and the Forth code is acceptable to 4 Forth compilers on
>>> Windows.
>>> Then I definitely need a whole slew of m4 code.
>>
>>I don't really understand why this is a goal.  If your Forth could
>>build itself, why would you want to build it on some other Forth?  I
>>dont think I've ever heard of a Forth in Forth that builds itself on
>>*any* Forth.
> 
> It was pretty easy to port ciforth to OSX. You would magically assume
> that you already have your Forth on OSX in order to bootstrap it.

Sure, you need your Forth running on something, but you only have to
do that once.  After that, you just cross-compile.

> If you OTOH cross build the OSX Forth on a working MS Windows Forth
> then you have to study the layout of the executables on OSX.
> I use the built in knowledge of the OSX system tools.

Oh yes, that's true, but once it's done you're free of those system
tools.  There are hybrid approaches such a using native assembler as a
bootstrap loader for a binary if the native formats are so truly
awful.  And, I grant you, they are not nice.

Andrew.

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  Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-10 01:22 -0700
    Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-10 02:54 -0700
      Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-10 03:44 -0700
        Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-07-10 10:13 -0500
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    Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-10 01:27 -0700
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      Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-10 18:32 +0000
    Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-10 18:31 +0000
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        Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-11 01:49 -0700
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          Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-07-19 06:58 -0500
            Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-07-19 12:48 +0000
              Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-07-19 09:03 -0500
                Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-07-19 16:07 +0200
                Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-07-19 08:51 -1000
                Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-19 19:15 +0000
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                Re: doing exercises for starting forth, kinda discouraging, some are easy and some seem text not prepare me for.... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-07-20 11:24 -0500
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