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Re: A FORTH flavored Linux?

From David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@gmx.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: A FORTH flavored Linux?
Date 2011-10-27 12:52 +0200
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>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:

> Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> writes:
>> I'm explicitly *NOT* looking for a Linux written in Forth.  Rather
>> I'm looking for a distro put together by someone with a Forth
>> mindset.... Small is good ;/

> If you just mean minimalistic, try some of the small distros intended
> to run in routers and other embedded devices.  openwrt.org and
> angstrom-distribution.org are probably good places to start.  I use
> Angstrom for some embedded stuff and it is fairly comfy for such a
> small distro.  I don't think it uses Debian packages/repos directly
> but has its own package installer called opkg (similar to apt-get)
> which has quite a bunch of stuff available.  I don't know about that
> particular USR modem but chances are it uses USB serial port emulation
> which is supported by Angstrom (don't know about openwrt).

As somebody who has some experience with gForth on OpenWrt: OpenWrt is a
distribution that provides a self-contained cross-compile build system
that produces fully-functional gnu/linux images from sources downloaded
via the internet at build-time.  Some time ago I created a recipie to
build gForth as an OpenWrt package/component, you can add it to an
image, or compile it as a package, using this line in your feeds.conf:

  src-git qipackages git://projects.qi-hardware.com/openwrt-packages.git

(This was last tested with OpenWrt Trunk, but might work with Backfire,
too)

Openwrt packages are named .ipk and installed via either the 'ipkg' or
'opkg' package managers.  .ipk is a subset of the debian package format,
BTW.

The gForth package is now shipped pre-installed with the official
NanoNote [1] firmware image, and has been working fine for some time
now.  It contains the latest ABI-CODE assembler support, which enables
one to do lowlevel programming/syscalls etc.  where neccessary.  Here's
some example code for framebuffer and I/O port access from gForth:

  http://mosquito.dyndns.tv/freesvn/trunk/nanonote/forth/

AFAIR the USB Robotics modems contain usb-to-serial converters which
work fine with Linux out-of-the box, so you can just configure pppd to
use /dev/ttyUSB0 and should be fine.

cheers,

David

[1] http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote
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A FORTH flavored Linux? Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2011-10-25 15:02 -0500
  Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Zbiggy <zbigniew2011REMOVE@gmail.REMOVE.com> - 2011-10-25 22:22 +0200
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? gavino <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2011-12-02 04:11 -0800
  Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-10-25 23:25 -0700
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? "Steve(spt)" <forth@jupiter-ace.co.uk> - 2011-10-26 03:01 -0700
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-10-26 16:08 +0200
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@gmx.de> - 2011-10-27 12:52 +0200
  Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Tarkin <tarkin000@gmail.com> - 2011-10-26 05:35 -0700
  Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-10-27 11:49 +0000
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2011-10-27 05:45 -0700
  Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2011-10-27 09:54 -0500
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Zbiggy <zbigniew2011REMOVE@gmail.REMOVE.com> - 2011-10-27 21:41 +0200
    Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? Bee <forth@calcentral.com> - 2011-10-27 12:42 -0700
  Re: A FORTH flavored Linux? gavino <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2011-10-31 05:03 -0700

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