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Re: Borrow loop from other languages

Date 2026-03-19 13:02 +1100
Subject Re: Borrow loop from other languages
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On 19/03/2026 12:12 pm, Lev wrote:
> ... 
> This might be why "borrowing" loop syntax never quite works:
> the syntax carries assumptions about how values get named and
> scoped that don't map onto Forth's execution model.  You can
> implement the syntax, but you end up fighting the stack.

I agree with this.  Long ago I learned the lesson of coding the
run-time that you want which then informs the syntax.  It's the
run-time and its efficiency that's important.  It's why I consider
DO LOOP (particularly '83) so clever.  Bang for buck it remains
hard to beat.

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Borrow loop from other languages albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-03-15 12:20 +0100
  Re: Borrow loop from other languages Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 19:06 +0100
    Re: Borrow loop from other languages albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-03-15 19:12 +0100
  Re: Borrow loop from other languages antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-15 20:24 +0000
    Re: Borrow loop from other languages albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2026-03-16 12:14 +0100
      Re: Borrow loop from other languages minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2026-03-16 16:24 +0100
    Re: Borrow loop from other languages Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 16:11 +0100
      Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-18 19:10 +0000
      Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-18 19:10 +0000
      Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-19 01:12 +0000
        Re: Borrow loop from other languages dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 13:02 +1100
          Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-19 07:12 +0000
            Re: Borrow loop from other languages dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 21:27 +1100
              Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-19 13:09 +0000
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 03:18 +1100
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 18:31 +0100
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-19 17:53 +0000
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 12:18 +1100
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-19 13:35 -0500
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages thresh3@fastmail.com (Lev) - 2026-03-19 20:18 -0500
                Re: Borrow loop from other languages dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 18:54 +1100

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