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Presence of standard words (was: CfV: S>F and F>S)

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Presence of standard words (was: CfV: S>F and F>S)
Date 2012-08-05 11:07 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2012Aug5.130723@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:
>Anton Ertl wrote:
>>                        ANS bigFORTH 386-Linux rev. 2.3.1
>> 
>> 0.999e  F>S .  don't know  0.999e
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot that I am not supposed to test different
>> Forth systems.
>
>You might put a note somewhere to tell you what magic these different 
>systems require to load the optional floating point wordset.  In 
>bigForth, it's "import float".

                       ANS bigFORTH 386-Linux rev. 2.3.1

import float  ok
0.999e  F>S .  don't know  F>S 
0.999e  F>D d.  don't know  F>D 

Well, at least it understands FP literals after "import float".

>It is, after all, an *optional* wordset.

That means that a system does not need to provide it, not that arcane
incantations should be necessary to load it.  The file wordset is also
optional, do I have to IMPORT that, too, on bigForth?

>We should at least have a standard way to do this.

Maybe.  Or just have all the optional wordsets you have loaded from
the start.  Arcane incantations or maybe less arcane standardized
incantations may be appropriate for embedded systems, but on a big
machine?  No.  And even on embedded systems the system could leave
unused words away, no need for arcane or standardized incantations.

- anton
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CfV: S>F and F>S anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-02 16:51 +0000
  Re: CfV: S>F and F>S mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-08-02 22:28 +0200
    Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-02 23:36 +0200
  Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2012-08-03 04:39 -0700
    Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-03 19:56 +0200
      Re: CfV: S>F and F>S mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-08-03 21:18 +0200
        Re: CfV: S>F and F>S anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-04 09:50 +0000
          Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-04 21:51 +0200
            Presence of standard words (was: CfV: S>F and F>S) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-05 11:07 +0000
              Re: Presence of standard words (was: CfV: S>F and F>S) stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2012-08-05 11:34 +0000
                Re: Presence of standard words (was: CfV: S>F and F>S) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-05 13:59 +0200
                Re: Presence of standard words (was: CfV: S>F and F>S) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-06 11:22 +0000
        Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2012-08-04 04:50 -0700
          Re: CfV: S>F and F>S stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2012-08-04 12:30 +0000
            Re: CfV: S>F and F>S C G Montgomery <cgm@physics.utoledo.edu> - 2012-08-05 09:14 -0400
          Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-08-04 21:47 +0200
      Re: CfV: S>F and F>S Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2012-08-04 05:42 -0700

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