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Auto-execute code at exit?

Started by"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
First post2017-12-09 16:20 -0800
Last post2017-12-24 21:04 -0800
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  Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-09 16:20 -0800
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-10 00:31 +0000
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? gordonb.k2333@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) - 2017-12-09 20:40 -0600
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 02:21 -0800
        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-10 11:50 +0000
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 04:19 -0800
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 04:32 -0800
            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 04:43 -0800
              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 05:03 -0800
              Who's a troll now? (Was: Auto-execute code at exit?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-12-10 14:01 +0000
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-11 15:19 +0000
        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 15:46 +0000
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 08:04 -0800
            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 18:35 +0000
              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 11:09 -0800
                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 20:28 +0000
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 12:38 -0800
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 09:07 +0100
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 11:45 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 13:50 +0100
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 19:29 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-13 08:52 +1300
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 23:04 +0100
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 21:08 +0100
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 21:40 +0000
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 23:22 +0100
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-12 15:54 -0800
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 00:11 +0000
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-12 17:38 -0800
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 10:44 +0000
                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-13 03:12 -0800
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 10:16 +0100
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-12 09:35 -0800
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 20:42 +0100
                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 09:02 +0100
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-12 21:34 +1300
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-11 18:37 +0000
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-12-11 19:39 +0100
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gordon Burditt <gordon@hammy.burditt.org> - 2017-12-12 20:54 -0600
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-12-09 19:32 -0500
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-10 13:36 +1300
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-09 17:14 -0800
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-12-09 21:49 -0700
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-12-10 11:04 +0100
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 20:22 +0800
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-10 18:10 +0100
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-12-10 20:48 +0000
    Auto-execute code at exit? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-12-10 10:59 -0800
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-10 20:37 +0100
        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-12-10 15:58 -0500
        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-10 22:59 +0000
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-12-11 02:34 +0000
            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 15:33 +0000
              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-11 16:42 +0100
                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 15:52 +0000
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-12-11 15:53 +0000
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-12-11 17:09 +0100
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 08:18 -0800
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-12-11 19:04 +0100
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 08:19 -0800
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 17:26 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 09:40 -0800
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 18:09 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 11:07 -0800
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 20:18 +0000
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 12:27 -0800
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-12-11 13:42 -0700
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 12:54 -0800
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-12-11 19:34 -0700
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-12-11 17:46 +0000
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-11 19:31 +0100
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 18:48 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 09:36 +0100
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-12-11 18:49 +0000
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-11 20:33 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 12:39 -0800
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-11 21:22 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 13:25 -0800
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-12 05:45 -0800
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 21:00 +0000
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-11 13:13 -0800
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 21:45 +0000
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-12 10:46 +1300
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-11 14:04 -0800
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-12 05:42 -0800
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-11 13:53 -0800
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-11 21:21 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 21:53 +0000
              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 08:01 -0800
                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 18:00 +0000
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 11:01 -0800
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 20:44 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 12:52 -0800
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 21:16 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 13:24 -0800
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 09:55 +0100
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-12-11 22:00 +0100
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 21:43 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 09:52 +0100
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-11 21:41 +0000
                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 22:33 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-12 01:17 +0000
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 01:44 +0000
                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 10:01 +0100
                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 11:17 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-12-12 03:40 -0800
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 12:01 +0000
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-12-12 04:50 -0800
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-12 18:33 +0000
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-12 10:37 -0800
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-12-12 21:43 +0000
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-12 11:31 -0800
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-12 20:09 +0000
                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 13:56 +0100
                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-12 19:44 +0000
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-13 09:07 +1300
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 23:28 +0100
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 00:08 +0000
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-12-13 01:42 +0100
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-13 16:35 +1300
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 10:55 +0000
                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-12-13 11:04 +0000
                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-13 11:45 -0600
                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 13:36 +0100
                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-14 07:34 +1300
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-13 03:20 -0800
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 11:25 +0100
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 11:50 +0000
                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 14:27 +0100
                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 14:31 +0000
                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 16:56 +0100
                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 19:27 +0000
                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 21:15 +0100
                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 22:48 +0000
                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-14 07:44 +0100
                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-14 06:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-12-14 00:32 -0800
                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-15 00:01 +0000
                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-12-15 00:48 -0800
                                                            Why post to Usenet? (Was: Auto-execute code at exit?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2017-12-15 10:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-15 12:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-15 17:40 +0000
                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-15 20:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-12-15 12:54 -0800
                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-15 13:51 -0800
                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-16 14:46 +0000
                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-15 23:20 +0000
                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-16 00:36 +0100
                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-16 01:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-12-16 20:06 +0100
                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-17 17:33 +0100
                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-17 21:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-17 15:06 -0800
                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-18 12:41 +1300
                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-12-18 03:36 -0600
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 11:51 +0100
                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 12:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 12:43 +0000
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 15:07 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 16:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 20:50 +0100
                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 13:57 +0100
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 15:36 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 21:04 +0100
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 09:08 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 20:51 +0100
                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-18 15:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 16:28 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 10:59 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 19:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 19:55 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-18 20:48 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-18 13:03 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-18 21:14 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 00:08 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 16:58 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 01:28 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-19 14:35 +1300
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 01:45 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-19 01:49 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-19 14:45 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-19 07:48 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 16:00 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-19 17:42 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-19 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-19 09:43 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-12-19 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-19 09:33 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 18:34 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-19 11:05 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-12-18 21:09 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-18 20:38 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-19 13:35 +1300
                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 01:00 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-19 14:04 +1300
                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-20 13:42 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-20 15:52 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-20 15:42 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-20 08:16 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-20 18:25 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-20 10:48 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-20 20:43 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-20 12:44 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-21 15:18 +0100
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                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-21 20:08 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-21 12:33 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-21 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-21 15:20 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-22 09:57 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-22 08:21 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-23 13:32 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-26 12:08 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-26 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-27 10:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-27 08:14 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-12-27 09:50 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-20 12:12 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-20 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-20 19:41 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-20 22:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-20 15:39 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-21 13:02 +1300
                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-21 00:50 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-20 18:22 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-21 12:10 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-21 13:10 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-21 20:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-21 21:37 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-22 01:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-22 12:14 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-22 17:01 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-22 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-22 09:52 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-22 12:02 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-22 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-22 12:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-22 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-22 17:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-23 02:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-12-22 22:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-23 14:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-23 14:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-24 09:45 +1300
                                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-23 16:28 +1300
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-23 11:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2017-12-23 13:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-24 09:29 +1300
                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-21 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-21 13:11 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-21 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-12-21 14:03 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-22 01:34 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-12-22 07:55 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-22 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-12-22 12:46 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-23 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-12-23 08:12 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-23 21:02 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-12-23 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-23 22:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-23 14:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-23 15:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-12-23 19:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-24 12:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-12-24 12:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-24 12:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-12-24 05:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-24 13:06 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-23 13:51 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-23 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-22 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-22 19:03 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-20 17:44 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 17:22 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 01:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-19 09:54 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-19 13:24 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-19 14:43 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-19 09:02 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-12-18 20:58 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 22:36 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-18 20:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 09:13 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-18 20:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 09:03 -0800
                                                                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-18 19:13 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-18 11:28 -0800
                                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-18 10:07 +0100
                                                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-12-18 07:50 -0800
                                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-12-16 12:21 +1300
                                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-15 09:51 +0100
                                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-14 12:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-14 05:13 -0800
                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-12-13 09:21 -0700
                                            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 19:27 +0100
                                        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-13 15:14 +0000
                                          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-13 17:11 +0100
                              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-13 00:29 +0000
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-12-13 00:41 -0800
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-14 06:51 +0000
                                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-14 14:40 +0000
                                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-12-14 17:15 +0000
                                    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-14 18:59 +0000
                  Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-12-12 09:48 +0100
              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-12-11 17:40 +0000
                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-12-11 10:57 -0800
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 13:56 -0800
        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 14:09 -0800
          Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-10 14:18 -0800
            Re: Auto-execute code at exit? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-12-10 14:51 -0800
              Re: Auto-execute code at exit? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-12-23 11:08 -0800
                Re: Auto-execute code at exit? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-12-25 00:49 -0800
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-12-11 00:29 +0000
      Re: Auto-execute code at exit? Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 18:30 +0000
        Re: Auto-execute code at exit? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-12-11 11:09 -0800
    Auto-execute code at exit? asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-12-10 15:05 -0800
    Re: Auto-execute code at exit? mcheung63@gmail.com - 2017-12-24 21:04 -0800

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#124083

FromIan Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Date2017-12-10 13:36 +1300
Message-ID<f93ds6Fp91dU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#124080
On 12/10/2017 01:20 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I can easily add code like this to auto-execute at startup:
> 
>      int initialized = my_init_function();
> 
>      int my_init_function(void)
>      {
>          // Code here
>      }
> 
> But is there some C Standard way to auto-connect algorithms at shutdown?

atexit() ?

--
Ian

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#124084

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-09 17:14 -0800
Message-ID<295a8e66-3f69-43b0-812d-254d52c274dd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#124083
atexit() eh?  It seems so obvious.  LL

Thank you all.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin 

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#124086

FromJoe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Date2017-12-09 21:49 -0700
Message-ID<1bh8szyypv.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>
In reply to#124080
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> writes:

> I can easily add code like this to auto-execute at startup:
>
>     int initialized = my_init_function();
>
>     int my_init_function(void)
>     {
>         // Code here
>     }
>
> But is there some C Standard way to auto-connect algorithms at shutdown?

  7.22.4.4 The exit function
  Synopsis
1          #include <stdlib.h>
           _Noreturn void exit(int status);
  Description
2 The exit function causes normal program termination to occur. No functions registered
  by the at_quick_exit function are called. If a program calls the exit function
  more than once, or calls the quick_exit function in addition to the exit function, the
  behavior is undefined.
3 First, all functions registered by the atexit function are called, in the reverse order of
  their registration,299) except that a function is called after any previously registered
  functions that had already been called at the time it was registered. If, during the call to
  any such function, a call to the longjmp function is made that would terminate the call
  to the registered function, the behavior is undefined.
(goes on to describe closing files, etc)

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#124092

From"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Date2017-12-10 11:04 +0100
Message-ID<m2vahej3v8.fsf@informatimago.com>
In reply to#124080
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> writes:

> I can easily add code like this to auto-execute at startup:
>
>     int initialized = my_init_function();
>
>     int my_init_function(void)
>     {
>         // Code here
>     }
>
> But is there some C Standard way to auto-connect algorithms at shutdown?

atexit(3) is in stdlib.

-- 
__Pascal J. Bourguignon
http://www.informatimago.com

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#124096

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-10 20:22 +0800
Message-ID<p0j8ui$l76$8@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#124080
On 10/12/2017 8:20 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I can easily add code like this to auto-execute at startup:
>
>     int initialized = my_init_function();
>
>     int my_init_function(void)
>     {
>         // Code here
>     }
>
> But is there some C Standard way to auto-connect algorithms at shutdown?

It has nothing to with C syntax. It's whether the operating system you 
are working with have such an API! And there are other methods to do it.

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#124104

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2017-12-10 18:10 +0100
Message-ID<p0jppa$jqn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#124080
On 10/12/17 01:20, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I can easily add code like this to auto-execute at startup:
> 
>      int initialized = my_init_function();
> 
>      int my_init_function(void)
>      {
>          // Code here
>      }
> 

This works in C++, not C.  It might not be obvious to you that it is 
C++, since you use a C++ compiler to compiler your C code.

If you are happy to require C++, then you can make a class with a 
constructor and destructor, and instantiate an instance of it at file 
scope - the constructor will be called at startup, and the destructor 
will be called at shutdown (at least during normal shutdown).  That will 
give you code that is a bit more symmetrical than using "atexit".

Just be careful if you have several such functions and you want them to 
be handled in a particular order.

> But is there some C Standard way to auto-connect algorithms at shutdown?
> 

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#124107

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2017-12-10 20:48 +0000
Message-ID<p0k6id$662$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#124104
On 2017-12-10, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 10/12/17 01:20, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> I can easily add code like this to auto-execute at startup:
>> 
>>      int initialized = my_init_function();
>> 
>>      int my_init_function(void)
>>      {
>>          // Code here
>>      }
>> 
>
> This works in C++, not C.  It might not be obvious to you that it is 
> C++, since you use a C++ compiler to compiler your C code.

Yeah, C does not have initialization code as C++ does ;)

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#124105

Frommark.bluemel@gmail.com
Date2017-12-10 10:59 -0800
Message-ID<0eb38248-278c-4f56-991f-e572a6b90fdf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#124080
How can you claim to be working on an extended, improved version of a programming language you don't actually know in any detail?

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#124106

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2017-12-10 20:37 +0100
Message-ID<p0k2d7$n4c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#124105
On 10/12/17 19:59, mark.bluemel@gmail.com wrote:
> How can you claim to be working on an extended, improved version of a programming language you don't actually know in any detail?
> 

There are several people in this group who are, have been, or are 
planing to implement their own languages that are "better" than C. 
Often they also include a C compiler implementation.  As far as I have 
noticed, they all seem to have regular misunderstandings about C, and 
rarely know or use C standards later than C90.  Rick is not alone in 
this - although he is a little unusual in admitting that it is his lack 
of understanding that lead to the mistake, rather than blaming it on the 
horrors of C or Linux.

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#124108

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date2017-12-10 15:58 -0500
Message-ID<p0k75t$rbr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#124106
On 12/10/2017 02:37 PM, David Brown wrote:
> On 10/12/17 19:59, mark.bluemel@gmail.com wrote:
>> How can you claim to be working on an extended, improved version of a programming language you
>> don't actually know in any detail?

Actually, a lack of knowledge of the language makes it easier for him to
feel justified in making such claims.

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#124115

Frombartc <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2017-12-10 22:59 +0000
Message-ID<n%iXB.159725$Yt.103512@fx36.am4>
In reply to#124106
On 10/12/2017 19:37, David Brown wrote:
> On 10/12/17 19:59, mark.bluemel@gmail.com wrote:
>> How can you claim to be working on an extended, improved version of a 
>> programming language you don't actually know in any detail?
>>
> 
> There are several people in this group who are, have been, or are 
> planing to implement their own languages that are "better" than C. Often 
> they also include a C compiler implementation.  As far as I have 
> noticed, they all seem to have regular misunderstandings about C, and 
> rarely know or use C standards later than C90.


Speaking for myself, I was using alternative languages long before I was 
familiar with C. They worked fine.

It didn't take long looking at C to realise my home-made language which 
I finally wanted to shelve was actually superior.

Because of that, I had no particular urge to delve into every murky 
corner of the language. Only as necessary, and then I rapidly forgot 
about it again.

And actually I don't write it regularly or intensely enough to get or 
retain that deep knowledge of it.

Although, nowadays having to generate C code, and even maintain my own C 
compiler, I do know quite a lot more than I did, not just the language 
but peripheral matters such as headers and libraries.

And I also know what I don't like, and don't want to use unless I 
absolutely have to deal with it, such as Unix or Linux headers or the 
jungle that is POSIX, or the nightmare of makefiles and configure 
scripts. Sorry, I'm just not interested and life is too short.

I have a need for a low-level language of this type. I try and use mine 
as much as possible, but sometimes I need to use C as intermediate code 
or to try and interface to C APIs for external libraries.

I more I learn about C, the more I wonder how such a mess of a language 
ever became successful.

It fills a very useful roll, it is needed, all the implementations are 
handy, but actually programming in it .... please!


-- 
bartc

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#124119

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2017-12-11 02:34 +0000
Message-ID<p0kqs9$ka5$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#124115
On 2017-12-10, bartc <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>
> I more I learn about C, the more I wonder how such a mess of a language 
> ever became successful.
>

It could replace assembler. When first I saw C, I was impressed that I
can crash machine, just like in assembler ;p
Power of C is in simplicity. Find any other language that has such
simple interface, so all of the languages have bindings to it ...

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#124130

Frombartc <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2017-12-11 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<8zxXB.214638$9N.106141@fx30.am4>
In reply to#124119
On 11/12/2017 02:34, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On 2017-12-10, bartc <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>>
>> I more I learn about C, the more I wonder how such a mess of a language
>> ever became successful.
>>
> 
> It could replace assembler.

It's a poor substitute for an assembler.

If using an actual assembler was too low level, then you might use a 
high level assembler, but still targetted at a specific machine.

C goes to some lengths to avoid being specific, making it less useful 
when you /are/ interested in a particular platform (for drivers etc).

> Power of C is in simplicity. Find any other language that has such
> simple interface, so all of the languages have bindings to it ...

I don't know if 'simplicity' is the right word here. Certainly at this 
level it is possible work with it in a way that is not practical with 
most other languages.

But it piles on a large amount of extra junk that makes that job harder 
than it need be.

(As a test, try and do the equivalent of:

   fprintf(stdout,"hello");

from assembly code for the platform of your choice.)

-- 
bartc

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#124131

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2017-12-11 16:42 +0100
Message-ID<p0m90o$b7r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#124130
On 11/12/17 16:33, bartc wrote:
> On 11/12/2017 02:34, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> On 2017-12-10, bartc <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I more I learn about C, the more I wonder how such a mess of a language
>>> ever became successful.
>>>
>>
>> It could replace assembler.
> 
> It's a poor substitute for an assembler.

C is not, and never has been, a substitute for an assembler.  It is a
substitute for the /need/ to use assembly in many situations.  There is
a /big/ difference.

Prior to C, things like operating systems, boot code, low-level
libraries, etc., were all written in assembly.  After C became widely
available, they were written in perhaps 80-95% C, and 5% assembly.
Assembly is still needed - therefore C is clearly /not/ a replacement
for it.  But most of what used to be written in assembly, can be written
in C instead (with massive benefits in readability, correctness,
maintainability, portability - and often, but not always, performance).

<snip, including the joke at the end>

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#124133

Frombartc <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2017-12-11 15:52 +0000
Message-ID<VQxXB.300158$Wm2.179001@fx03.am4>
In reply to#124131
On 11/12/2017 15:42, David Brown wrote:
> On 11/12/17 16:33, bartc wrote:

> <snip, including the joke at the end>

Assuming you mean this, it wasn't a joke:

(As a test, try and do the equivalent of:

   fprintf(stdout,"hello");

from assembly code for the platform of your choice.)

The task is, given definitions for fprintf and stdout (it is assumed you 
know how to do the actual mechanics of the call), how to write the code 
from assembly.

The tricky bit is the stdout part.

-- 
bartc

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#124134

Fromgazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
Date2017-12-11 15:53 +0000
Message-ID<p0m9lv$j75$2@news.xmission.com>
In reply to#124133
In article <VQxXB.300158$Wm2.179001@fx03.am4>, bartc  <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>On 11/12/2017 15:42, David Brown wrote:
>> On 11/12/17 16:33, bartc wrote:
>
>> <snip, including the joke at the end>
>
>Assuming you mean this, it wasn't a joke:
>
>(As a test, try and do the equivalent of:
>
>   fprintf(stdout,"hello");
>
>from assembly code for the platform of your choice.)

"David Brown" is a headcase.  I don't think you should worry too much about
what he thinks or feels.

-- 
Which of these is the crazier bit of right wing lunacy?
1) We've just had another mass shooting; now is not the time to be talking about gun control.

2) We've just had a massive hurricane; now is not the time to be talking about climate change.

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#124138

From"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Date2017-12-11 17:09 +0100
Message-ID<m2mv2pi6um.fsf@informatimago.com>
In reply to#124133
bartc <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

> On 11/12/2017 15:42, David Brown wrote:
>> On 11/12/17 16:33, bartc wrote:
>
>> <snip, including the joke at the end>
>
> Assuming you mean this, it wasn't a joke:
>
> (As a test, try and do the equivalent of:
>
>   fprintf(stdout,"hello");
>
> from assembly code for the platform of your choice.)
>
> The task is, given definitions for fprintf and stdout (it is assumed
> you know how to do the actual mechanics of the call), how to write the
> code from assembly.
>
> The tricky bit is the stdout part.

Why use libc when you write assembler?  Use a libasm!

-- 
__Pascal J. Bourguignon
http://www.informatimago.com

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#124139

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-11 08:18 -0800
Message-ID<677aa929-0239-4966-b554-a76684fdd61f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#124138
On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
> Why use libc when you write assembler?  Use a libasm!

What's libasm?

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#124152

From"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
Date2017-12-11 19:04 +0100
Message-ID<m2inddi1k0.fsf@informatimago.com>
In reply to#124139
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> writes:

> On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-5, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
>> Why use libc when you write assembler?  Use a libasm!
>
> What's libasm?

Any hypothetical library designed to help writing assembler programs and
interfacing with the OS, like libc.

There are already such nice libraries for assembler development.

-- 
__Pascal J. Bourguignon
http://www.informatimago.com

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#124140

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-11 08:19 -0800
Message-ID<f66ff104-81d9-4e0d-afc3-2b3173eac679@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#124133
On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 10:52:36 AM UTC-5, Bart wrote:
> The tricky bit is the stdout part.

That shouldn't be tricky.  Most OSes offer default handles which are
already defined for STDOUT, STDIN, and STDERR.  You just push their
handle for the write.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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